Elessair Posted November 3, 2019 Posted November 3, 2019 Hi all! I was trying to choose one egine to develop a personal project. I found NWE in this forum, but i cant see any demo working... is there any out of there? thanks Quote
Dave Posted November 4, 2019 Posted November 4, 2019 As far as I'm aware the original author hasn't updated this project in a while. The official website just displays a coming soon screen right now: https://www.nw-engine.com/ You'd be better off finding a project that is actively maintained. 1 Quote
KyleMassacre Posted December 15, 2019 Posted December 15, 2019 The engine still works with just a couple of fixes depending on your PHP version. I actually just spun up a copy that I had and just had to fix a few things like the engine verification which verifies your license and the engine news section in the admin panel. The original owner Alain sold off the engine to some dude who just let it die. A few of us have offered to buy it off him for a reasonable price but he refuses. I do have a copy of the free version if you would like to test it out Quote
sniko Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 4 hours ago, KyleMassacre said: [...] The original owner Alain sold off the engine to some dude who just let it die. A few of us have offered to buy it off him for a reasonable price but he refuses. [...] Refuses because your offers are too low or because they don't want to sell it in general? Quote
KyleMassacre Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, sniko said: Refuses because your offers are too low or because they don't want to sell it in general? TBH... No idea Its been a couple years now so I don’t know if he is still holding on or if he is willing to sell Quote
Dominion Posted December 16, 2019 Posted December 16, 2019 15 hours ago, KyleMassacre said: TBH... No idea Its been a couple years now so I don’t know if he is still holding on or if he is willing to sell Do you still have contact information to ask? 1 Quote
KyleMassacre Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 I emailed him but about getting my modules sent to me and no response yet 1 Quote
2gatz Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 Does anyone have a download link for the engine ? Quote
Curt Posted March 12, 2021 Posted March 12, 2021 nwe_dev.zip I attached the dev version which I think was the free one ? I have the full version but pretty sure I cant post that one for free 😛 Quote
Sim Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 The new owner sounds like a asshole, i would post full version privately. Id actually like to take a peak myself. I can't remember what technologies was used on this. Edit: not sure what law is on dead-projects. URL doesn't load for me. Quote
2gatz Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 Law is simple if a project is dead and nobody is making a proper claim to the project it becomes free to use or open source. Does anyone know how to contact the current owner ? I actually still have extreme worlds engine also lol (client & server) Quote
Dayo Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, 2gatz said: Law is simple if a project is dead and nobody is making a proper claim to the project it becomes free to use or open source. Does anyone know how to contact the current owner ? Really not sure about that one, he may still take a claim to the project. The new owner is under no obligation to reply to emails. On 3/13/2021 at 4:12 AM, Sim said: The new owner sounds like a asshole, i would post full version privately. Id actually like to take a peak myself. I can't remember what technologies was used on this. Edit: not sure what law is on dead-projects. URL doesn't load for me. Even if he is a asshole it does not make it right for you to break copyright law Quote
2gatz Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dayo said: Really not sure about that one, he may still take a claim to the project. The new owner is under no obligation to reply to emails. Even if he is a asshole it does not make it right for you to break copyright law You are right he could make a claim but in most case's They never do, It is almost like they just give up and do not look back like XW engine the owner just decided to stop production and never look back Quote
Dayo Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 None of what you say makes sense and here in the UK copyright lasts for 70 years after author's death. You cant just go around and say "This project hasn't had any updates in a year or two ... its free use now" Plus the fact that on their website there is a "coming soon" legally they can say it's still under development. Quote Law is simple if a project is dead and nobody is making a proper claim to the project it becomes free to use or open source. I would love to see the legislation regarding this as everything i know about copyright/licensing will need to be thrown out the window 1 1 Quote
2gatz Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 On 3/12/2021 at 7:11 PM, Curt said: nwe_dev.zip I attached the dev version which I think was the free one ? I have the full version but pretty sure I cant post that one for free 😛 seems it does not work installer.php only saying New Worlds Engine for Developer Installer Also the SQL files are missing tables it is a shame I would love to mess around with this engine again 1 minute ago, Dayo said: None of what you say makes sense and here in the UK copyright lasts for 70 years after author's death. You cant just go around and say "This project hasn't had any updates in a year or two ... its free use now" Plus the fact that on their website there is a "coming soon" legally they can say it's still under development. I would love to see the legislation regarding this as everything i know about copyright/licensing will need to be thrown out the window ahh yes well different country's follows different laws and regulations for instants a game hosted in Russia can own the rights in completely in Russia. But in the US or Canada those laws do not apply. I have actually been involved with a similar situation where a company had a copy of the game and the owner tried to have it removed and when they refused they attempted to sue them. But due to the different laws it could not be done. So with that being said it is more so depending where you live i guess LOL Quote
Dayo Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 Yes your country of residence can prevent you from being sued due to different laws in different countries, the only protection having your server hosted in places like Russia in your example is they will just ignore DMCA notices. But if you are a resident of one of somewhere like UK, USA, Canada etc ... you can still be sued directly for damages/loss of income. Quote
2gatz Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Dayo said: Yes your country of residence can prevent you from being sued due to different laws in different countries, the only protection having your server hosted in places like Russia in your example is they will just ignore DMCA notices. But if you are a resident of one of somewhere like UK, USA, Canada etc ... you can still be sued directly for damages/loss of income. that is true but in the case I am referring to that also was not allowed.... So maybe mark the engine as use at your own risk if you are using it publicly lol Quote
Dayo Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 (edited) Getting back on topic, if people want to download NWE engine the last known link on archive.org has this file available for download https://web.archive.org/web/20150801223518/http://nw-engine.com/ nwe_free (1).zip Edited April 7, 2021 by Dayo 1 Quote
2gatz Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 anyone know who the owner is or a way to contact them ? Quote
SRB Posted April 7, 2021 Posted April 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Dayo said: Maybe they dont want to be contacted? But how we going to sign this person up for viagra ads without knowing their details!? 😞 Quote
Sim Posted April 8, 2021 Posted April 8, 2021 On 4/7/2021 at 7:08 AM, 2gatz said: anyone know who the owner is or a way to contact them ? Try domain whois? Or contact @a_bertrand Who knows if he still lingers around. I would bet his personal site is still online, but i don't remember his URL. Quote
Dave Posted April 9, 2021 Posted April 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Sim said: Or contact @a_bertrand Who knows if he still lingers around. I would bet his personal site is still online, but i don't remember his URL. Last visited 2016, I doubt he lingers haha Quote
2gatz Posted April 10, 2021 Posted April 10, 2021 nah i talked to him before i asked here lol 1 Quote
KyleMassacre Posted November 12, 2022 Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) On 4/7/2021 at 3:13 AM, Dayo said: Getting back on topic, if people want to download NWE engine the last known link on archive.org has this file available for download https://web.archive.org/web/20150801223518/http://nw-engine.com/ nwe_free (1).zip 345.61 kB · 6 downloads Good looking out on the file find. For anyone wanting to run this, some of the major errors are the VerifyEngine() function which pings a domain no longer reachable so just change that to return true. Also it uses old constructor methods so you will have to change that to __construct(). I believe there is one more thing but can’t think of it off the top of my head. EDIT: Dayo posted a copy of NWE free that he was able to get off the wayback machine but here is a fresh local copy of mine with some bug fixes. I would just like to note, there may be some bugs still and I can help fix them if needed. nwe-free.zip Edited November 13, 2022 by KyleMassacre Added fresh file to download Quote
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