ColdBlooded Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 MCCodes 2.5 (known informally as MCCodes v2 Redux) is a significant revamp of MCC V2 (v2.0.3) engine made and released by the team of MCCodes. This engine will be branded as Redux as it sounds a lot better than a numerical title. The official version, as stated before, is 2.5.0 (Build: 25000). A bit about Redux: This engine will wrap up the release schedule of v2 (besides bugfix releases) in anticipation of the first news releases regarding v3. We'd like to finish the v2 engine with a solid release in regards with the MMORPG's industry gaming needs. Within MCCodes Redux, we have reorganized files and modified the installer to install the game to the owners needs. A few other features and abilities have also been added to the engine so it gives the owners all the rights and powers to operate the engine to their needs. We have also minimized technical programming involvements regarding the base engine by allowing most things to be controlled and set using the engine's installer and panel. Bullet point summary of MCCodes Redux (remember that Redux is built on V2 therefore all V2 engine features will come with it): Revamped staff panel Re-structured engine files Codes optimized for performance and organizational enhancements (eg. mods/features in /mods folder; staff files in /staff folder.. etc) Layout system. A layout system feature has been added so layouts can be added, edited and changed using the staff panel. (A selection of layouts made by a_bertrand come included with the engine) The default layout has been upgraded and comes included as PSD so it can be modified. A large amount of files edited. So you will see features like the registration, users online system upgraded and so many other features compared with normal V2 engine. The aim of MCC Redux is to expand the development of MMORPG gaming community even further by allowing the engine to expand with ease. So as MCCodes Redux is more efficient regarding stability, security, adding mods and controlling, we believe it'll be successful. We hope this engine drives the community to make more development on RPG gaming in terms of mods and layouts. This will be the last V2 engine venture the MCCodes team will develop (except bugfixes) unless of course the community drives us to make more development on V2. We believe this won't happen as the V3 engine will be released in the future which will be another development altogether. MCCodes Redux will be made available for community testing and viewing in the coming days. After allowing a decent period of time in which we listen to peoples views and comments, we will make MCCodes Redux available for sale. Pricing structure: 1 MCCodes Redux engine license - $120.00 Additional MCCodes Redux engine licenses - $80.00 per license. Upgrade an existing MCCodes v2 license to MCCodes Redux - $40.00 per license. Upgrade more than one existing MCCodes v2 license to MCCodes Redux (at same time) - $30.00 per license. MCCodes Redux: Link: http://redux.mccodes.com/ 1 Quote
Joshua Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 So... You basically Fixed something that should have been fixed a long time ago, and instead of giving customers a patched version, you are trying to leach 40.00 more out of there pocket. Sigh. My opinion, if they have already purchased V2, they should be "given" the patched version. Why? Same reason all websites send out "patch updates for free" You've already purchased the program, it's considered good standing for a company to keep that program bug free, FOR FREE. Quote
a_bertrand Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Joshua: McCode 2 has been patched and offered for free to all the existing customers. This new version is not just a patch, but adds features as well, so 40$ doesn't seems excessive, yet I didn't saw the new code, but as far as I know it is a more organized one, with a few new nice tricks. Quote
ColdBlooded Posted March 31, 2011 Author Posted March 31, 2011 Alain is correct. We launched a patched version V2.0.3 just recently for free. This is engine Redux (v2.5) which is a thorough upgrade from v2.0.3 therefore we are charging for it. I would like to point out that MCCodes is a hobby driven entity and most revenues are reinvested into MCC/MWG/other dev to keep everything running :) Quote
W3Theory || Peter Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 In my honest opinion ,doesn't seem worth it. Quote
Diesl Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 $40 upgrade seems like a lot, especially given the history with this engine (no offense). I believe that performance optimization should be something that gets patched into 2.0.3. $20-$25 would be acceptable IMO. Although, it's good to see that improvements are made to improve scalability and ease of use. Quote
Dominion Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Honestly It's probably not worth established games upgrading simply because they should have added there own features by now anyway, however for new mccodes customers they have finally put something worth while out there. Well done. Can we have a full list of updates rather than "and many more"? What's the psd look like? Or just hurry up with the demo so we can see. ;) Quote
JohnGato Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 As i did buy the 2.0.3 version recently, this will absolutely help me out in my ventures.... cant wait to see the new version Quote
Paul Evans Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Well to be honest i can't wait to see this versions sample to see what exactly is in it worth the extra 40 dollars but with reading the original post i'd say the organisation of the files itself would be worth that (i know most people wouldn't of done that for less than 40 bucks for v2.0.3 users). Moving the staff files is rather good as i've seen people charge 150 dollars just for that. Although when you say reorganise im curious do you mean you simply link from a sub folder or you added a function to include the files into a global file? If the second answer im curious is it easy to edit the file for example if it's home.php?x=home is it simple to edit that to game.php?x=home also do you use the same structure with the staff files? Bertrand, nice to know you contributed worth it just to see what you did :D I won't judge the price till i see the sample to be honest :P Quote
Danny696 Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 WOW this is funny.... MCCodes 2.5 (known informally as MCCodes v2 Redux) is a significant revamp of MCC V2 (v2.0.3) Surley if your calling it Redux it'll be formally mcshit V2 Redux? So youve finally tried to optimize some code......And been soo cheap to use alains template....Youre also doing something that should have always been done FOLDERS Template MOD....Like the free ones on here i guess... unless of course the community drives us to make more development on V2. We only ever actually asked for security and bug fixes, in two updates you didnt manage that, made yourself look silly. YOU'VE just seen a money making scheme and tried to put it in action. Quote
Galahad Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 If this turns out good. I might actually be interested into buying this Quote
rulerofzu Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 I think $40 upgrade for something thats restructured as stated is a fair price. It takes a significant amount of work to restructure. However I reckon anyone that purchased the 2.0.3 version since its release should be allowed to upgrade to 2.5 for the difference in price $20. I think that would be fair as its possible anyone that purchased the 2.0.3 could have held out just a little longer and purchased 2.5 if it had been revealed such work was taking place! Quote
The Spirit Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Sounds good, but I think it should 20 -25 to upgrade in my opinion. Quote
a_bertrand Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Well, I do have my own opinion on the price: - If you bought the engine since a month or a bit more then I would say you should get a free upgrade. Just as good sign. - Older owners could have an upgrade price and this is done. Most software do require an upgrade price which is sometimes nearly as high as a full price, some times it's about 30%. Now the price of what you purchase can be evaluated on multiple basis. From a developer point of view you should count how much time you invested into it, multiply it by a price per hour fair (between 20$ and 80$ depending on who does it), and divide it by the planned sales. Which means if something costs 1000$ to develop (price per hour) and you sell it 5x you cannot ask less than 200$ or you would lose money From a customer point of view, you can compare a product with what others offers. For example, a 3D software with similar or superior features should not cost a lot less than another software of that level, yet not too much more or you will not sell it. To come back to McCode, they did offer an upgrade price, and they certainly invested time / money (no I didn't charged anything for my own work), to create the new version. Before flaming their work, check it out or wait to see what those which will have access to it will say. Even if I don't like much the kind of game created with McCode, I can see that you guys (on this board) are mainly linked to this kind of game and a huge majority of you used it at some point. So instead of flaming accept it for what it is. And if I shall add a last thing, it seems to me that they did improved McCode communication with the community and also the support as before they have been silent for quiet a while, now at least we see from time to time a post, and we do see new versions (patches and upgrades). Quote
Joshua Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 I semi agree with your last point Bertrand. I know Woltlab (these forums) You are allowed Free Upgrades for a year after purchase. After that you have to pay a bit. I think it's the same for a lot of various programs Quote
sniko Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Nice to see you've been working on the engine and developing it a little more. Good luck with the sales and future mccodes experience :) -sniko Quote
Uridium Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Redux as a new word dont really give it justice... Redux may refer to: Redux (literary term), a term used in literature and film Redux (The X-Files), a two-part episode of The X-Files Apocalypse Now Redux, an extended version of the epic war film Apocalypse Now Redux (adhesive), an aircraft adhesive Redux (album), an album by Adam Ant Redux (EP), an EP by the band Amebix Redux (drug) (dexfenfluramine hydrochloride), a weight loss drug withdrawn in 1997 DD68 Redux (stock-class paintball marker) I say we have a comp for the new naming Quote
JohnGato Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Well hopefully since i just bought v2 this month ill get a nice discount on redux Quote
Paul Evans Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Illusions - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/redux Quote
rulerofzu Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Redux (album), an album by Adam Ant I have that Quote
p_T_s Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 I bought v2.0.3 just under a month ago. (8th march) I was going to buy it a couple months back but heard about the patched version (v2.0.3) and was told i would be better off waiting so i waited and then purchased. Now their saying they have another better version? I would have to agree with "a_bertrand" QUOTE "If you bought the engine since a month or a bit more then I would say you should get a free upgrade. Just as good sign." If i had of known this, i would have just waited and forked out the extra $20. But now on top of the $40 being asked, I will probably have to stop in my tracks again and wait and then redo all my work to date. But in the other sense, just the staff panel side being reworked is probably worth the $40, so again i will wait and see what the Redux version is like. Based on the improvements to v2 codes i should be good. Just my piece for what it's worth... :P Quote
JohnGato Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 I bought v2.0.3 just under a month ago. (8th march) I was going to buy it a couple months back but heard about the patched version (v2.0.3) and was told i would be better off waiting so i waited and then purchased. Now their saying they have another better version? I would have to agree with "a_bertrand" QUOTE "If you bought the engine since a month or a bit more then I would say you should get a free upgrade. Just as good sign." If i had of known this, i would have just waited and forked out the extra $20. But now on top of the $40 being asked, I will probably have to stop in my tracks again and wait and then redo all my work to date. But in the other sense, just the staff panel side being reworked is probably worth the $40, so again i will wait and see what the Redux version is like. Based on the improvements to v2 codes i should be good. Just my piece for what it's worth... :P LOL im in the same boat as you, i bout version 2.0.3 on march 9th..... Hopefully they do the right thing and allow us to get it as an update and not have to pay the extra $40..... I am putting my stuff on hold till then Quote
Djkanna Posted April 1, 2011 Posted April 1, 2011 Redux (album), an album by Adam Ant I have that Sad but me too. Little disappointing, I only like Stand and Deliver :( Quote
p_T_s Posted April 2, 2011 Posted April 2, 2011 I wonder if the upgrade is going to be easy? hopefully automatic like when you upgrade joomla or other cms... :P Quote
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