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Most people on this forum know what they are getting when they hire someone.

Refudning 36 payments on paypal is a shady thing to do. If you really wanted to get rid of MTG then cut your loses and leave. Refunding money like that is going to drag this out. Oh and btw. Paypal ALWAY side with the person selling virtual goods. GL!

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I just want to say I hosted this donnie guy once before. Wanted a pirated version of MCC uploaded and worked on. I refused to do it myself so he did it and pestered me to fix it for him.. I still refused and he got his buddy @AT2C to fix it and host it. Then AT2C comes at me saying my server isn't upto date I should be running php 6 on a production server, everything is out of date..

Then donnie attempted to refund his money for hosting, because I put him on an outdated server.

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Let's try and keep this civil [MENTION=70101]_donnie_[/MENTION] and some [MENTION=70810]A2TC[/MENTION]. I see that MTG has kept it completely civil and you guys are just doing a lot of bashing and below the belt type stuff. This thread is in the collaboration and experiences so he is discussing his experiences with this particular collaboration. So, please, let's get back on point here or the thread is done and you won't have the chance to prove that MTG is not telling the truth.

The he way I see it is that this looks like a bad mark and a lot of people now and in the future may not want to work with you if you require someone or in fact need assistance with something. Don't worry I read what you said about not needing anyone but just in case. A lot of it doesn't even have anything to do with MTGs claims, a lot has to do with the attitude that is shown.

Last chance.

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I have known mtg for over a year now and done work with him in the past many times with no problems at all.

As for sticking his name in the code and claiming the game as his own this is bull mtg did work for my mobsters online which he added his db wrapper and class_functions and other stuff and not once has he ever tried claiming my game as his own.

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I have known mtg for over a year now and done work with him in the past many times with no problems at all.

As for sticking his name in the code and claiming the game as his own this is bull mtg did work for my mobsters online which he added his db wrapper and class_functions and other stuff and not once has he ever tried claiming my game as his own.

I've had MTG's code in almost all my projects. This mysqli class was at the time really rather awesome! I haven't seen it in atleast a year. But still, he never claimed my projects.

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So why is Donnie trying to flip this topic/subject to Magictallguy being a pedophile, that shows that he is trying to get out from this situation/dilemma he is in kind of shady if you ask me. And there is no fooling older members of this forum we have seen our share of losers/scammers, and Magictallguy is not one of them, so stop slandering him as a pedophile to try to get out of scamming MTG.

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I just want to say I hosted this donnie guy once before. Wanted a pirated version of MCC uploaded and worked on. I refused to do it myself so he did it and pestered me to fix it for him.. I still refused and he got his buddy @AT2C to fix it and host it. Then AT2C comes at me saying my server isn't upto date I should be running php 6 on a production server, everything is out of date..

Then donnie attempted to refund his money for hosting, because I put him on an outdated server.

Ok that's a lie, that wasn't about Donnie and you damn well know it, that was for Derek Barringer, don't try merging issues, and your server does suck, and you did sell Derek a bad copy of McCodes. Which yes I did fix, and honestly I would rather deal with MTG then you. seriously man all you do is beg me for work...want me to share your convos. That issue had nothing to do with Donnie so just because you're all butthurt that I called your server crappy, doesn't mean you can just come here, like seriously man I can post all the convos, it was with Derek Barringer, you did sell him a crap copy of McCodes and you put him on a crap sever..and Derek also did chargebacks on me for the work i did for him...so I kinda regret not letting you screw him over.

we all know you are out of work, you beg me for work like every day and try selling me your crap...And I haven't even blocked you for it, so yeah take your butthurt elsewhere.

And we don't need anyone here to work for us, if we did need extra help we would hire real coders, not people from a dead website of wannabes lol..like seriously how does a website of game owners help us. I made $6k last month not using this website, and those are just my side projects. there are real site with real coders. Hence why I never signed up here and why I actually haven't been back here...this place is dead and even if it wasn't it's still not even close to the best place to find a people.

you're all a close knit group, and don't really matter in the big picture of things. sorry but it's true..we don't need anyone here, and the fact that MTG ran here is a joke..run and shame, run and shame..well run and take some legal action...oh wait scammers can't take legal action as they have no backups to their story. so the noobs here who lack the intelligence to see this..don't matter either..as people who have real claims the real action...only losers who want their own way go online and shame.

So I am going to go back, do whats right for my players and my clients, I will call you out when you rip people off or scam them, as seriously my clients matter, you don't.

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The seller has responded to our request for tracking information. We haven’t confirmed the tracking information yet but wanted to share it with you.

Files uploaded to his site tracking # n/a

 

Oh now your saying its mine lol I uploaded a copy of the game from back in september before you started working for me, as for the 36 payments in questions they would only let me go back 3-4 months not the 6 you have worked for, Which is still around 700-800 bucks

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You can not sit and take the **** out of a full community! I am sure that some off the mods on your site are from this community? So in fact you do need it to run your game yeh?

Also if you can make 6k on side products then concentrate on dope runners as I signed up and you had three different layouts for me to log in with none off them match!

So when you can come onto a site and **** on people's work, take a step back and look at your own, most of the developers on this site probably can show your skills up, Dave is a full time magneto front and back end developer with the qualifications, [MENTION=64603]Sim[/MENTION] is very talented in jquery and javascript, Kyle and script are rumored to be good, and that's just a few off them

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I don't know how I got brought into this mess. I don't even think I read one post in this topic...

 

Thanks for the ego boost though [MENTION=67703]adamhull[/MENTION] even though I don't need to brag about my skills, they show for themselves. =]

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And we don't need anyone here to work for us, if we did need extra help we would hire real coders, not people from a dead website of wannabes lol..like seriously how does a website of game owners help us. I made $6k last month not using this website, and those are just my side projects. there are real site with real coders. Hence why I never signed up here and why I actually haven't been back here...this place is dead and even if it wasn't it's still not even close to the best place to find a people.

I know, completely off topic here, but I think this point has to be made...

 

if we did need extra help we would hire real coders, not people from a dead website of wannabes lol
- "Wannabes"? I personally develop at an institution that is not a freelancing gig. Some of us actually have jobs in the field of software development with college degrees to back up that knowledge. I just do this as a hobby - I hardly ever make any money whatsoever for what I do here. I do this because I enjoy it as well as helping others. In most cases, I help people out here with code fixes for no charge.

Also, if English is your primary language, you may want to work on spelling and grammar. That can help you out professionally when corresponding with clients. When you conduct yourself professionally in all aspects, the much larger clients tend to take you more seriously.

~G7470

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The seller has responded to our request for tracking information. We haven’t confirmed the tracking information yet but wanted to share it with you.

Files uploaded to his site tracking # n/a

Post the rest of it..

 

oh now your saying its mine

No. I'm not. I'm saying that you had received a copy of my code as it was uploaded to your1 site.

 

I uploaded a copy of the game from back in september before you started working for me

False, I purposely leave little markers2 in the code that make it identifiable to me. The backup you uploaded was not from before my work, it was my work!

 

and I agree with a2tc this is a site thats dead and mtg only came here because no real action can be taken so yea, got better things to do later gators

The site is far from dead. It gets, on average, 3,950 unique visitors and 19,582 page hits a day, and is worth $18,000+3. It has a very active userbase and most of the people on here (minus a few isolated incidents) are friendly and willing to set their time aside to help others.

For the love of all that is holy; if you're going to slate pretty much everything you can, you may want to be able to back it up with evidence to support your claims4

1 At the time of the job

2 The markers are almost invisible to most, I will happily show you

3Source

4 Which, for the record, you have failed to do throughout this entire topic

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Why are we even bringing the community into this. Not everyone in the community is involved in this drama. Slandering everyone in this community is completely un-professional. I'm kind of fed up with this and if you are hating on this community then just leave because there is no use for you here, you had plenty of opportunity to plead your case and show that the allegations are in fact false. I don't feel that this is going anywhere else so this topic is done.

Best of luck in your ventures and hate me all you as I don't really care.

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I opened this thread up in case someone can provide some solid evidence.

A quick recap is that MTG claims that Donnie is using his code unlawfully. There has been some beating around the bush about this and a bunch of he said she said. Donnie claims he paid MTG over 1.5k but MTG claims it's just shy of 1k.

Now, what I would like to see is some solid evidence only. A lot of the screenshots and links are dead which is a shame. But if there is any evidence of this agreement that would be great

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as to start proof of myself here is my info the url info as for the engine/coding it began in 2013-2014 and on, I will look on skype and show all evidence of me paying mtg for his coding not his code (premade is what I mean by that), so if you pay some one fix something that someone else had alrdy made and fixed bits or pieces of it then made it yours is that alright?

as iv took screen shots of when you get banned( on the game mtg sold and is coding for) still says drcity and multible ingame files still say drcity in on that note. And that the buyer wrote me in email saying that he got the code from mtg and saying that its mtg's code but it has drcity on it well thats a lil proof right there also but not much as im aware of that. But as its halloween hope every one has a good night be back on to update tomorrow

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I am still a bit confused by what you are talking about. I though drcity.org was MTG's as stated in the 1st post? As for editing existing code, that depends really and also depends on the license that it was created with. There are some licenses that specifically state that any changes to the code must be given back to the author(s) which means that it still isn't even yours.

Basically what we would need to see is any and all agreements you guys made, how much the contract was for and what was paid out for the contract, and when/why the contract was terminated.

To be honest, it sounds as if you kind of terminated the contract randomly and made some redirects while he was still working on the site, basically "stealing" his work in the middle of it.

Now, do we think we can do this civilly? And do we think we can stay relevant to the topic at hand without getting all crazy here?

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A lot of the screenshots and links are dead which is a shame.

Screenshots restored

 

I am still a bit confused by what you are talking about. I though drcity.org was MTG's as stated in the 1st post?

The entire site (including domain) was supposed to be mine when I agreed to convert a terribly outdated casino script.

Naturally, I never received a thing.

 

Basically what we would need to see is any and all agreements you guys made, how much the contract was for and what was paid out for the contract, and when/why the contract was terminated.

I have long since re-installed my OS (thrice) and no longer have those logs, unfortunately

 

To be honest, it sounds as if you kind of terminated the contract randomly and made some redirects while he was still working on the site, basically "stealing" his work in the middle of it.

That is *exactly* what he did - giving me absolutely no warning, not even a polite "your services are no longer required"

 

Now, do we think we can do this civilly? And do we think we can stay relevant to the topic at hand without getting all crazy here?

Most likely not

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