Mindless Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 Just a question that's popped up in my head. Which degree is considered better to have, for employers? Computer Science or Software engineering? Also which one is more programming related, i know their both very similar, and computer science is more technical and maths orientated, but just wondering if anyone who has studied any of these, knows any information they would like to pass on. Thank you. Quote
SRB Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 From my experience, neither are more important than experience. All the programming positions I have had have been based on what I can do, normally with a paper test, and for good reason. College/uni courses use the same textbooks throughout, so at the end of a 3 year course, you are 3 years behind technology to start with. Then, the 3 years you have spent in books, I've spent working on commercial products... Who is better qualified. Skill over degree all day. Quote
Mindless Posted September 24, 2013 Author Posted September 24, 2013 Absolutely correct. However a degree is generally used as a starting block, and employers nowadays want something really good on paper, just to have a look at you. I understand what you mean by skill over degree, and it's a known rule, that if you want to study any of these 2 degrees, with the course, you have to learn the programming language yourself as well. I was just wondering, though which one is more about programming, just to get an understanding about the difference of the 2 courses. Quote
a_bertrand Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 Technology wise Guest is fully correct. However in many places (like where I work for example) a degree will show that you can learn, as well as you should know some basis like general algorithm, designs etc... Some time just experience will not work out as you may simply end up using always the same (wrong) tricks. On the other side, it's better to take somebody with has both, a degree and some experience ;) Quote
lucky3809 Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Absolutely correct. However a degree is generally used as a starting block, and employers nowadays want something really good on paper, just to have a look at you. I understand what you mean by skill over degree, and it's a known rule, that if you want to study any of these 2 degrees, with the course, you have to learn the programming language yourself as well. I was just wondering, though which one is more about programming, just to get an understanding about the difference of the 2 courses. Computer Science, is programming, learning what the computer does in different languages. Software Engineering,teaches the same thing computer science does, but it's main focus is on design and software building, and testing of the software, ect. I personally if I was doing it for the cash I would take Software Engineering most of the top companies are always looking for software engineers. Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Absolutely correct. However a degree is generally used as a starting block, and employers nowadays want something really good on paper, just to have a look at you. I understand what you mean by skill over degree, and it's a known rule, that if you want to study any of these 2 degrees, with the course, you have to learn the programming language yourself as well. I was just wondering, though which one is more about programming, just to get an understanding about the difference of the 2 courses. I have 4 GCSE's after dropping out of school, no one has ever asked me about my qualifications or the lack of them, they look at my CV to find out my experience. Quote
bluegman991 Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 A degree in Computer Science is going to look better than a degree in software engineering from the employers point of view. Course wise a CS major will require more math credits and will take classes that focus more on the theory of computation, as well as Operating System, Real Time, and Compiler engineering. A Software Engineering major on the other hand will focus on the development of applications. A CS grad can easily do a software engineers job because of their advanced knowledge of computation. Actually a lot of CS grads do become software engineers. However an SE grad with no experience in the field could not complete a job at a Computer Scientists level. Quote
Dayo Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 I have 4 GCSE's after dropping out of school, no one has ever asked me about my qualifications or the lack of them, they look at my CV to find out my experience. im almost the exact same, i have 4 GCSEs and got my job from my experience, and when we were looking for another developer the ones with degrees struggled more with our little "questionnaire" we made even on the simplest of questions Quote
Uridium Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 I didn't have any decent grades at school nor have I ever been to collage or uni but people here use my mods because they know I spend the time to test them before I make them available on here and usually they work 98% of the time I wont say 100% cos that would be lieing :) Quote
Dayo Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 I work for a company called heatingsave/heatsave, I don't work on there websites as I work on the web applications controlling the systems Quote
dnenb Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 There's no right answer for that question, but I can say that computer science with maths and statistics is way more fun. (Yes, guess what I study.) :) Quote
SRB Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 im almost the exact same, i have 4 GCSEs and got my job from my experience, and when we were looking for another developer the ones with degrees struggled more with our little "questionnaire" we made even on the simplest of questions Yes, simple tests confuse a lot of "graduated" Here is one of my bookmarked (Simple fizzbuzz confuses most): Why can't programmers program? Quote
Lucifer.iix Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) As long computers are calculators, i would go for math. Like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combinatory_logic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_calculus Example: database table JOIN ??? ohhh, you mean the: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_product Happy hacking ! Ps: If you don't understand math, 99.5% chance your building object graphs with a OOP Language. ;) Edited November 17, 2013 by Lucifer.iix Inserted a smily ! Quote
Sim Posted November 18, 2013 Posted November 18, 2013 I am majoring in computer science GEARED towards Software Development. I go to a tech school. "Strayer" Quote
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