mafios283 Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 Hi friends I have purchased ravan mmorpg code from here for cheap but when i found out it is same as mccode i have purchased a license for v2 from mccodes.com . I dont know abcd about coding or designing a layout nor can hire a coder for big bucks My question is if i have a valid license to use mccode v2 can i use the theme and files from what i got from ravan script since both codes are same and use mccode license. Here is a demo site of the code , http://bloodmafia.x10hosting.com/login.php Can also anyone test if the site is secure or not thanks Quote
a_bertrand Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 raven code is a pirated code of mccodes. So unless you have a true mccodes license you do not have a valid license. Quote
Zero-Affect Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 Alain could he not argue that he bought a licence from ravenscript therefore being a customer and not aware of the issues with raven script is version is kind of valid if MC make ravenscript pay for all sold copies (i would). Quote
ColdBlooded Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 Simply file a PayPal dispute on that transaction as we have notified PayPal about this situation. Waiting on ravan.info to be take down by their hosting provider. Quote
rulerofzu Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 LOL raven.info - default holding page. http://ravan.info/_catalog - everything is still up for sale. Quote
ColdBlooded Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 I repeat, we are still waiting on ravan.info to be take down by their hosting provider. Quote
Dominion Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 Alain could he not argue that he bought a licence from ravenscript therefore being a customer and not aware of the issues with raven script is version is kind of valid if MC make ravenscript pay for all sold copies (i would). you could say that but they would just say it was well known it was mccodes being used Simply file a PayPal dispute on that transaction as we have notified PayPal about this situation. Waiting on ravan.info to be take down by their hosting provider. does paypal not have a time cap on stuff like this? you let them sell for years people wont always be able to get there money back and there no guarantee that the host will agree to take down a site thats been up that long i would be asking why has it taken this long? how long have you been waiting on the host? Quote
rulerofzu Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 Paypal is 60 days and then it would be registered as a complaint against the seller but nothing would actually be done. If you want real swift action bypass the host...go direct to the datacenter and pull them up on their tos and get the server taken down. Quote
Dominion Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 i dont see why you can't use the look and layout as long as your copy of v2 is paid for Quote
Djkanna Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 Just use the theme it's a rip of MafiaCorruption anyway -.- Quote
Zero-Affect Posted May 8, 2010 Posted May 8, 2010 Yeah i told Sohaib i don't think he's done anything about it. Quote
CrazyT Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 I repeat, we are still waiting on ravan.info to be take down by their hosting provider. What if they were on a offshore server, basicly you wouldn't do anything... raven code is a pirated code of mccodes. So unless you have a true mccodes license you do not have a valid license. He sure does have a licence, isn't his fault if the mccode creators let it get out of hang letting raven.info selling pirated mccode. Quote
mafios283 Posted May 9, 2010 Author Posted May 9, 2010 I do own a valid mccode v2 license as stated in my opening post. After purchasing mcccode , i did try to set up a website but my site got hacked like 7 times in 3 days so had to take down the site and use raven code instead. I just wanted to know since I own the mccode license is there any problem in using the raven code which i found is much much more secure than the default mccode. Not interested in the theme but i need atleast some security for my game so 10 yr old script kiddies cannot hack and ruin my site . I have found most of the coders in here would charge like 2? per file or 300? for entire script which I cannot afford . I would rather never file a paypal dispute and even recommend them to my friends because they helped me in setting up my website , secured the code , helped me in installing and fixing few modifications which i assume 10 times more worth than just the 15$. For me if i have not found them first and bought your buggy script for 300$ i would definitely have filed a charge back for selling me unsecured buggy code. I know they are selling pirated copy of your script but atleast they offer me support and bug fixes you guys cannot provide. My question to the developer is why would you even sell the program if you cannot provide some basic security and that too for 300$ which is not a small amount of money at all . Quote
Dominion Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 mccodes v2 is now only $100 and if you own a vaild copy there wont be anything wrong with using raven script (as long as there not using paid for mods made by Freelancers) btw raven script does not look much more secure then v2 just has more stuff added to it all free mods btw My question to the developer is why would you even sell the program if you cannot provide some basic security and that too for 300$ which is not a small amount of money at all . lol the answer to this should get this topic going :thumbup: Quote
Joshua Posted May 12, 2010 Posted May 12, 2010 Ravan code is identical to McCodes V2. So I'm not seeing how you feel it's "safer" The only thing they changes with Ravan script was the Banner and mccodes to Ravan. Seriously........ Quote
Spudinski Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 I must agree with rulerofzu, take a step higher. I mentioned somewhere something about their live support being worse than actual email contact. They must be a really poorly managed company, so they might not even have a abuse department. Taking the matter to the data center; I don't know anything about what their response time to this should be, but I know if within a certain time frame the demand is not met they're actual server(s) can be taken off the grid at the data center's. This would of course, depend on the host's host Terms of Service agreement. Quote
delirious Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Apparently Ravan.info has been shut down a year to date. Getting a 404. Quote
S.Cosmin Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Hmmm...I leave in Romanian and if i have a warez licence from mccodes you cant do anything. You cant take down my site or something. This is romanian :)) Biggest warez land, all are free. Thats why paypal dont accept romanian. What ever, i have a licence for mccodes and ravan's to. Quote
a_bertrand Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Well I doubt you can't do anything as Romania is part of the EU and therefore it must follow the EU laws and for example the copyright laws ;) Yet it could be harder for US people to act than in other EU countries, that can well be. Quote
S.Cosmin Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Really, whee don't care about copyrights, what they like, they use. And, nobody can go in Bucharest for example and to say to one man you cant use this cuz is copyrighted. You right, whee are in EU, but EU for me is nothing, if i want to use something, is use, without permissions. If you see a script, music, movie in USA and you like it that you buy it but if i see something what i like, i call to warez... :)) Quote
Dominion Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property_in_Romania Also even if what you are saying was correct... your host would also need to be in your country. Sorry, but you can be taken down if you're using raven script. Btw – google tells all. Full copies of your copyright laws can be found online. Quote
S.Cosmin Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 No, that just writing. I show you. I gonna buy a host in Romanian, and i use Ravan or Mccodes warez script. Than you can make a complaint to that firma, they respond to you by "Have a nice day mister, this is romania, Bye" :) Biggest warez forums are hosed in romanian. Quote
Dominion Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 (edited) Actually they would respond more along the lines of You are not a representative of mccodes.com and have no right to file any kind of complaint, however thanks for informing us” I have no idea were most warez sites are hosted nor do I really care enough to look it up... Bottom line is it's illegal, however if you're saying hosts ignore the law... You would just go to the next step after telling them. Try, and google to find out what that would be ;) Edited May 8, 2011 by Dominion Quote
rulerofzu Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Difference is forums do not host any of the files themselves they are just a resource and not liable for the content. Again the small print comes into play which Dom has already stated once today that nobody reads! Uploading the script to your purchased or free webspace is not the same thing. As your hosting illegally obtained files. Chances are they would remove the files if contacted by a representative of mccodes.com. Quote
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