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I used to co-own his game European-Alies, and who was the first to create Lost-Warzone? So he stole the name, as i've seen it before.

Looks to me like a little bit of editing a back-up of Blown-City. And if he could get payed hosting and domain why couldn't he pay for a banner. Wait....Maybe he claimed he could code for someone so he could get to there cpanel and steal the site.

As i've worked with him before, from experience, I say this post is logical.

When there was european-alies i didnt know how to code 1 bit not even signatures or adding mods i started making games and started to learn to code when magictallguy took me from step 1 of making a game to the very last step and i had learnt how to code a bit while adding mods and designing games. And syke(tahmid) gave me a game with called www.lost-warzone.com and now it dont work so i made www.lost-warzone.net

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well for one Thing just because some one Rights a Copy Right logo on some thing THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS COPY RIGHTED. Look up copyright.gov and search for it, if it is not one there then it is not copy righted mean you can use it as much as your want. hell you can even copy right it your self. The only other they that could have been done is trademarking it And Im Pretty sure some one that is going to be passing out free shit is NOT going to pay well over $300 to Trademark one little code.

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dusty research english copyright laws then tell me my stuff isn't copyrighted also read the TERMS OF USE applied to the modification and waved by the owner of CE if it wasn't legal then it would of been removed by a member of staff therefore my login and register are copyrighted along with all my other work.

in closing ishz you may or may not have removed it but you still did have it without my copyrights on.

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Ishz, :sad: im disappoitnted i thought my virus last time solved our stealing stuff problem...This isn't mine that you stole but i dont like thiefs xD so dont steal again thanks

Your one to talk :roll:

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ishz is not too far away from being sued lol, he's putting other peoples header on CE as his own.

This is a very old topic...

I just want to say to people who says this person is being sued over a code.

In laws with the states and copyrights, HTML,PHP, anything to do with coding using those will not stand up in court, they are not really copyrighted because you CANT get a copyright on codes. However if you were to copy a graphic you can very well be sued for stealing theyre art and work, but not htmls,php coding. It's free to use by anyone!

As for those who are copying others codes, theyre really isnt alot anyone can do to prevent them from NOT doing so.

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dusty research english copyright laws then tell me my stuff isn't copyrighted also read the TERMS OF USE applied to the modification and waved by the owner of CE if it wasn't legal then it would of been removed by a member of staff therefore my login and register are copyrighted along with all my other work.

in closing ishz you may or may not have removed it but you still did have it without my copyrights on.

 

 

ishz is not too far away from being sued lol, he's putting other peoples header on CE as his own.

This is a very old topic...

I just want to say to people who says this person is being sued over a code.

In laws with the states and copyrights, HTML,PHP, anything to do with coding using those will not stand up in court, they are not really copyrighted because you CANT get a copyright on codes. However if you were to copy a graphic you can very well be sued for stealing theyre art and work, but not htmls,php coding. It's free to use by anyone!

As for those who are copying others codes, theyre really isnt alot anyone can do to prevent them from NOT doing so.

LMAO thanks Spirit38 I thought I was going to have to put a big post on here with the copyrights rules and regs. But you could not have said it better. As far as you go zero-Affect I have a degree in Law so don't try and tell me to look some thing up, and one other thing Your crapy english copyright does not have any hold in the USA. See here in the USA you have to have papers saying that your art is copy righted and like Spirit38 said ANY FORUM of Web Site coding can not be copy righted. and my friend That also goes for your english copyright....

FOR EVERY ONE ELSE> Just because you see a copy right logo on some one site does not mean that its copy righted. YOU CAN NOT COPYRIGHT ANY FORUM OF WEBSITE CODE. just a small why you cant.. because it would be useless. all you would have to do would be change one simple word in the code and the copyright would be out the window, and in a code that would be easy,,,.,

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Wrong wrong and wrong!

PHP can be copyrighted, and is automatically so as any other creation. HTML is a bit more difficult as anybody can copy it from anywhere without any effort and you will need to redo the same things as others to get similar or not results. Like what if I try to copyright the tag ? (Beside of course it's too short for a real copyright case)

 

I strongly suggest to read this:

http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

or

http://evolt.org/node/15208

 

So, any real work you do, is by default copyrighted to you (with or without the small © and date sign). Now while suing somebody you may need to demonstrate that you was the first author of this creation, and that can be a bit more tricky. Beside that, yes you are the owner of your own creations (unless you work for somebody at the time you create it) and you get therefore the copyrights about it.

 

Then the statement that changing a simple word in the code changes the code and makes it a new code: wrong, as then you could do the same on a book, isn't it? Well sorry (or actually not sorry at all), it doesn't work like that.

 

Also stating that in the US there is no law actions for copyright infringement over code is also wrong. Don't you guys remember that Linux got serious troubles over the code it was containing and has been sued by a pretending copyright holder? Well those are serious matter also in the US.

 

Now as Freek seems to be the owner of this code, he will have to tell me if he want to delete all the code here or place his own.

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Just to confirm a_bertrand is correct...in pretty much everything he says. You do not need papers to have copyright it exists when the conditions for existence are met. You do not need to register it/you do not need to place a © sign or any of those other things. Just to point you in the correct direction for the two examples given above (UK and US and I include internationally as well). With threads like this lingering, and a lot of misinformation hanging about, it is certainly time for a sticky "All you need to know about copyright but were afraid to ask" thread (which should be routinely cleared of false information).

UK:

The CDPA 1988 s.1 and 3(1) make it clear that computer code is covered (as a literary work) by copyright.

Cantor [2000] RPC 95 is a recent(ish) case illustrating application of copyright to code. Demonstrates that the code itself and the programming architecture is capable of protection.

Hawkes and Sons [1934] 1 Ch 593 copyright infringement happens where a substantial and/or essential part of the work is taken.

USA (though not my jurisdiction):

Title 17 of USC c.101 (definitions which INCLUDE computer software/code) and c.102 which talks of general application. So, provided the conditions for copyright are made out, such code/software is capable of protection.

This was recognised BEFORE the legislation was updated to reflect this in Apple v Franklin 714 F.2d 1240.

Copyright law also protects websites, both on the individual elements (graphics, musical works, text, HTML, software etc) AND the overall selection and placement of those elements.

On the HTML point, cannot be copyrighted (aside from being too short) the same as a "standard" table format cannot give rise to a copyright. This is not something "novel" to HTML/code. This is something all works (particularly literary) share in common. In US you need fixation, originality and a level of creativity in order to be protected. The "standard" things lack the last two criteria. However, if your HTML is original and demonstrates a minimal level of creativity then it can qualify for copyright protection.

all you would have to do would be change one simple word in the code and the copyright would be out the window, and in a code that would be easy,,,.
This is just plain incorrect for both computer programs and works of copyright more generally. Altali 982 F.2d 693 case makes it clear if a work is "substantially similar" then there is an infringement.

 

There is a huge Novell case going through US courts at the moment about the alleged "misappropriation" of some source code, which means it is, as bertrand suggests, a huge deal in the US.

 

International:

World Intellectual Property Organization Copyright Treaty Article 4 includes computer programs/code within the copyright protection scheme established by Berne Convention (of which US and UK [and most others] are signatories)

 

 

*This is NOT to say that FUNCTIONALITY is protected. This means if I see a computer program which achieves X, copyright only protects the particular expression of that idea. This means I may try to achieve the same purpose/idea, provided I do not copy the code.*

LMAO thanks Spirit38 I thought I was going to have to put a big post on here with the copyrights rules and regs.
I would like to see how you come to the contrary conclusion to the above. Unless I am missing something fundamental, I don't think you are correct.

 

I have a degree in Law so don't try and tell me to look some thing up,
That is no way to win an argument. Everyone knows if you get 3 lawyers together and ask them something, you get 3 (or more answers) ;) . As it happens, I also have a law degree (and a masters degree with 25% of study of intellectual property law) and disagree with what you say (quite fundamentally). So, if you could look things up to form a rebuttal, that would be great. :thumbup:

 

Your crapy english copyright does not have any hold in the USA. See here in the USA you have to have papers saying that your art is copy righted
Simply not true. USA is signatory to the Berne convention which states that NO formalities are required. Also, both following Berne and being common law countries protection of copyright in US and UK are very similar.

 

As for those who are copying others codes, theyre really isnt alot anyone can do to prevent them from NOT doing so.
If the stakes are high, you can simply be sued or have some form of interlocutory relief (like an injunction). Just because the vast majority of authors do not pursue infringement, does not mean some will not.
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