Daron Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Anybody know a really good free web host? i currently use x10 free server, BUT i keep hitting a resource limit and my site keeps being blocked, i run a text based mmorpg and it sux to keep being temp shutdown due to high traffic -_- anybody know any other good free host? i love x10 because of their awesome cPanel VPS Optimized 3. But i just cant deal with the constant resource limit hit thing :confused: Quote
skooda Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Well you keep hitting your limits b/c its a free host.You could get a good reliable host for 99 cent a month. Quote
SilverStar Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 I can't associate the word "good" with "free" when it comes to web hosting. :rolleyes: Quote
rulerofzu Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 You could get a good reliable host for 99 cent a month. Thats incorrect Quote
Dave Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 Thats incorrect No it's not... You can buy good, cheap hosting. But you'll struggle finding it. If you buy yearly you can probably easily find a plan that works out to $0.99 a month. I'm paying about $2.50 a month and it's fine for me. One note, don't go for a company that offers the 'Unlimited' lie of a plan. Quote
Daron Posted July 26, 2012 Author Posted July 26, 2012 ah okay dave i will look out for that. & ah not bad i guess i could try find a cheap one Quote
Guest Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I use http://hawkhost.com there support is awesome and it's fast, highly recommend, i'm pretty sure $6 a month isn't too much :) Quote
rulerofzu Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 No it's not... You can buy good, cheap hosting. But you'll struggle finding it. If you buy yearly you can probably easily find a plan that works out to $0.99 a month. I'm paying about $2.50 a month and it's fine for me. One note, don't go for a company that offers the 'Unlimited' lie of a plan. No it is incorrect even if paying yearly with a budget host. The maths does not work out for it to then be a reliable host. In order for your to meet the server costs at $0.99/month you would need around 60-70 accounts on one server to break even and thats on the cheapest hardware with webmin or a free control panel. So in order to make a profit there is more likely going to be 140 - 280+ accounts on a server. It will not be reliable. I would agree with dont go with unlimited webspace or bandwidth hosts. Again its another overselling tactic and your more than likely being put on a already strained server. Quote
Dave Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) No it is incorrect even if paying yearly with a budget host. The maths does not work out for it to then be a reliable host. In order for your to meet the server costs at $0.99/month you would need around 60-70 accounts on one server to break even and thats on the cheapest hardware with webmin or a free control panel. So in order to make a profit there is more likely going to be 140 - 280+ accounts on a server. It will not be reliable. I would agree with dont go with unlimited webspace or bandwidth hosts. Again its another overselling tactic and your more than likely being put on a already strained server. You're forgetting that this $0.99 plan would have something like 250mb disc space maybe to the max of 1gb. So for your 140 clients you'd only need around 35gb (supplying 250mb per client) and 140gb (supplying 1gb per client). I didn't spend much time on this maths, so I know it's not exact. Along with some high performance server stats and a decent management team stopping the abuse of system resources I think this is totally doable. Especially with the new CloudLinux option provided for cPanel which can actually limit the amount of CPU resources, iNodes etc per customer. Considering you'd get $138.60 from those clients, I'm sure you could get something, even basic that could house the clients. http://cpanel.net/cpanel-whm/cloudlinux/ Bearing in mind I've only got 1gb of disc space on my account that I'm paying $2.50 a month for. Edited July 27, 2012 by Dave Macaulay Quote
Guest Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 No it is incorrect even if paying yearly with a budget host. The maths does not work out for it to then be a reliable host. In order for your to meet the server costs at $0.99/month you would need around 60-70 accounts on one server to break even and thats on the cheapest hardware with webmin or a free control panel. So in order to make a profit there is more likely going to be 140 - 280+ accounts on a server. It will not be reliable. I would agree with dont go with unlimited webspace or bandwidth hosts. Again its another overselling tactic and your more than likely being put on a already strained server. http://hostingflux.com/hosting_plans just saying Quote
Dave Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 http://hostingflux.com/hosting_plans just saying This is awkwardly my old hosting company that I sold on, they even provide a plan now that is the same price... They need to remove my name from the website though. Quote
a_bertrand Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 The issue is hardly a disk issue, or let's say not a disk size issue. Usually you will have more issues about network usage, cpu / ram and then disk operations. So having thousand users on a given host is hardly doable. I fully agree on ruler on this one. So how does that work? Basically, if those are static website with little to no transfer, even if they uses a lot of disk space, you don't care. But as soon as some sites uses PHP to do whatever operations (forum, game, whatever), with MySQL usage and more, you are sure it will eat up server resources. You basically have at this point 2 options: - Keep all the users on the same server, and maybe even host yet more people, which means it will be slow for all of them, yet you offer a cheap hosting. - Kick out users which starts to use resources, and this is what Lunarpages do for example. As soon as you start using even a bit of CPU / Ram they kick you out. Therefore, I strongly believe that you can't have a cheap and yet good hosting, I mean, either you don't use it much, and it will work for you, but if you plan to make a game run on such site, well... good luck ;) Quote
Dave Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 The issue is hardly a disk issue, or let's say not a disk size issue. Usually you will have more issues about network usage, cpu / ram and then disk operations. So having thousand users on a given host is hardly doable. I fully agree on ruler on this one. So how does that work? Basically, if those are static website with little to no transfer, even if they uses a lot of disk space, you don't care. But as soon as some sites uses PHP to do whatever operations (forum, game, whatever), with MySQL usage and more, you are sure it will eat up server resources. You basically have at this point 2 options: - Keep all the users on the same server, and maybe even host yet more people, which means it will be slow for all of them, yet you offer a cheap hosting. - Kick out users which starts to use resources, and this is what Lunarpages do for example. As soon as you start using even a bit of CPU / Ram they kick you out. Therefore, I strongly believe that you can't have a cheap and yet good hosting, I mean, either you don't use it much, and it will work for you, but if you plan to make a game run on such site, well... good luck ;) Indeed you're correct, most of my websites are static content with the odd connecting to a database etc. If you want to host a decent game you should really think about something a bit bigger then shared hosting, providing you plan to do well. Quote
Spudinski Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I don't host with people unless they run the network. I fear a zombie apocalypse where they eat the cables, and the host can't do jack. Quote
Raven1992 Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) [ATTACH=CONFIG]564[/ATTACH]well i with x10hosting and i got the infinity pack i only spend $6.95/month on the infinty pack and i get unlimited bandwith Edited July 28, 2012 by Raven1992 Quote
skooda Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 [ATTACH=CONFIG]564[/ATTACH]well i with x10hosting and i got the infinity pack i only spend $6.95/month on the infinty pack and i get unlimited bandwith Theirs no such thing as unlimited when it comes to webhosting. Quote
skooda Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 I think if a host has the word unlimited I think you should stay away from it.I prefer a host that give limits their mostly the reliable ones with good uptime. Quote
KyleMassacre Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 [ATTACH=CONFIG]564[/ATTACH]well i with x10hosting and i got the infinity pack i only spend $6.95/month on the infinty pack and i get unlimited bandwith I was not aware of an infinite disk drive, infinite RAM, or infinite CPU. Your sharing server resources with other renters which means your robbing them of resources if yours requires more and in that same token lets say google was on your same server how fast do you think your pages would load up? Its been quite some time since ive been in networking or data communications but lets think of this like a home network and your router is your server, you have 30ul/15dl and you have have 5 comps running from the same router. You will have unlimited upload and download but its still only unlimited UPTO the 30/15, but if your other computers are on netflix maybe streaming a movie your download speed is now drastically lower so you only have unlimited to what ever is readily available. Quote
Abiasaph Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 (edited) Well you keep hitting your limits b/c its a free host.You could get a good reliable host for 99 cent a month. Sure its really like free, i am impress now. Can you share with me more detail where or how we can get reliable package. Edited October 13, 2012 by Abiasaph Quote
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