Interest in a version converter?

[Spudinski]

I've recently gone trough some post on here and found that most people ask for conversion of modifications.

Even though I know that it is a real simple thing to do, the average bloak still does not know how to do it.

So in addition to the above, please vote on the poll and post any comments.

 

 

[infobox]Please comment what you voted and why you voted it![/infobox]

[Dominion]

don't see why people can't just follow the topics already up however if it helps out people and it will help people out i don't see why not :) there are already copys out there i think? may be wrong

[Dayo]

ive made one of these, i may put it live on my site soon

[Guest]

Would be good for all of the new people. If you do make it just keep it on your site, so people can do it from there. No point even giving the script out to be honest.

[Dominion]

true but if its posted and there site goes down then the people it was made for can still use it

[gurpreet]

I think that this would be good for new users to MCC (especially with V2.02 and the upcoming V3) but I doubt more experienced people would use this, as it'd be a normal thing for them to do, known off by heart.

[Spudinski]

My site has a 100% uptime so var, so no worries about that.

I would of course host this on my site, with some conditions of usage like; paid modifications require consent.

The most scripts that offer this doesn't have some aspect all covered.

Like a large'ish modification that requires some header contents to be hidden etc. so this will be a trail and error service.

I think for the most part, some regex patterns will be solid as a base and then I can just modify onto it.

[SupaDene]

I voted yes as it will help the noobs who cant do it, and secondly save the pros time on conversions of big files. I mean if its hosted on your site it would get a lot of hits i believe.

[Spudinski]

@Famex17: one of the hidden agendas... ;)

And also, I'd like to put back into this community; I'm following this up with free hosting offers and IRC.

[corruptcity || skalman]

u spelt bloke wrong

[Spudinski]

I use other spelling, ZA to be exact.

[Jordan Palmer]

I voted No, because there is enough topic's out there for people to follow, The more we babysit new people the more we expect. I'm sorry but we need too make them learn otherwise they'll never be able to code and that's seriously not going to help anyone

[CJ - Twitch]

I voted yes. Save the n00bs. :P

@Jordan. You grumpy twat GTFO.

[Spudinski]

Still need more votes...

Although I agree with Jordan, I think this can help everyone out.

It saves us the time of pointing people to the right direction, and as somebody else said; will help if even we want to convert big files.

There is actually a really good work-around to the whole version story, that Isomerizer and Kyle first started use some time ago, but that's just logic.

Anyways, I actually hope there will be some developer guidelines set out for modification developers, or that MCC V3 would be able to adapt to current modifications(not very likely).

The most solid way to make a modification would be not use any MCCodes features at all, but then again it would limit the abilities of the modification.

[Djkanna]

Maybe

Yes: It's a good idea and could come in handy! (I get lazy :P)

No: Well *below* pretty much sums it up.

I voted No, because there is enough topic's out there for people to follow, The more we babysit new people the more we expect. I'm sorry but we need too make them learn otherwise they'll never be able to code and that's seriously not going to help anyone

[Jordan Palmer]

@Jordan. You grumpy twat GTFO.

I remember that when you need my help ..Prick..

[SupaDene]

slowly going of topic again.

To be honest, if the "new" people don't wish to want to use the tutorial guides to convert files then the shouldn't have to, given them the option to choose the hard way or the easy way would be beneficial for them because if there willing to learn with-in themselves then they will take the hard way. And also the other points i had brought up on previous posts, with it being beneficial for bigger files, lazy peoplez etc. i think its a good idea tbh.

[CJ - Twitch]

@ Jordan.

Do you mean you will remember that?

Doesn't bother me to be honest.

On topic:

We all have to start somewhere and I think this help some people. Even if it an easy job.

[Maniak]

I voted no, because if people cannot be bothered to change $db-> to mysql_ (by simply pressing CTRL+F) and also changing include "globals.php", include_once("globals.php"); or w/e is on there to all the crap at the top of v1 & lite files, then they do not deserve to use that script. The same goes for if the script was made for lite/v1 and they want it converting to v2.

[Zero-Affect]

Code it then CJ...

I voted No because i don't have the time but the idea is good, shouldn't be so difficult a simple replace script disregarding tabs and spaces and so forth.

[Spudinski]

It seems you people tend to forget a few things, simply converting variable names isn't going to be 100% solid on some modifications.

There are allot of other things one needs to look at as well. It seems most of you don't even realize it, there are more advanced things that a converter needs to look at.

There are different tables, the introduction of some new config variables in V2, and a whole lot of other things as well.

To be quite honest with you people; Ask yourself this question: why do you automate certain tasks(like Ctrl+F4)? It makes things easier for you.

Even the greatest programmers still automates their doings, and with good reason. Like me - I use online formatters for some scripts I use, because I don't have a definite need to add and remove spaces and lines in scripts(AVG script being 1, 000 or more lines).

I'll still see which option gets the most votes.

[Zero-Affect]

would it not be easier to convert the whole v1 into v2 lol

[Spudinski]

Nope, it would take too long.

[Dominion]

It seems you people tend to forget a few things, simply converting variable names isn't going to be 100% solid on some modifications.

There are allot of other things one needs to look at as well. It seems most of you don't even realize it, there are more advanced things that a converter needs to look at.

There are different tables, the introduction of some new config variables in V2, and a whole lot of other things as well.

some things will never be able to work with both v1 and v2 without changes to the database or what may as well be a recode for example the items part of v2 is nothing like lite/v1 any converter you make would not be able to change that so if someone wanted a v2 item buy page for v1 they would then post saying it did not work not always but lets face it most of the time. i know you said about the table but thought it was worth resaying as well as the config values are never the same for 2 sites what would your script do would it ask me for my game name for example?

i think people are voting no because they think people will just post asking for everything to be done for them if your script can not handle it i voted yes because it will make life quick and easy for everyone but i already have one i use since my copy of lite now has its own class file in time i will post it up but i do think v2's class file is not mccodes so no harm in anyone running lite/v2 using it?

[Spudinski]

Basically it could analise the script, and and if there are any dependencies of V2 it will ask the user to enter them.