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No you don't need to invest thousands at start but then you need to invest time and efforts on the content, the game rules, the look and feel and the marketing. If somebody believes that he can just invest 100$ and get rich without doing anything it's a pure dream. Sorry CB but here you are completely wrong if you advertise your products differently.

So maybe you should explain more clearly what you are after. Invest in new games? Buy yourself some scripts? Or buy an established game? And what's exactly the budget you want to invest? 100$ for a premade script (that's somehow the price), or load more (10-50K) if the game is a great success? And who will run the game after purchase? You? or the current admin?

A forum (for anyhow still reading) is a place to discuss and give our opinion. There is only a couple of things we don't want here: totally out of topic (which wasn't the case), insults, and illegal activities. You don't like our forum? fine go somewhere else, sorry but I don't have to please every and single one out there. If you post in a public place, expect to get public answers.

Indeed, I have the right as anybody else, to give answers without yet insulting others ;-) And, now your price jumped to 10K? Not 2K anymore? Anyhow, I don't have to prove anything to anyone, I just wanted to say that spudinski was right, and even on the low side, and you already reacted in a heated way. Do as you think but don't expect to gain much respect from others in such way.

Well, you are basically wanting to buy a pre-made script which does like a web rts? Then maybe you should search for than via google ;-) You stated: "I need a browser based mmorpg developed." for me, that means you want somebody to develop it for you, not that you are looking for a pre-made game... Sorry but maybe somebody needs to learn how to WRITE instead ;-) You stated also "The basic graphics and basic website design must be included (although we can outsource it)" that would mean you would expect to have it included, and if not you may outsource it. Sorry but you was clearly not clear. If you don't like the answers maybe it's because you didn't tough carefully about the implications of what you ask.

Why should he use another forum Raven? Sorry but if he got scammed he has the right to inform / warn other people on this forum. Yet he needs to provide some proofs...

Well... a 2k game is worth... not much... for sure ;-) 1) It's a premade code (nothing special) 2) It doesn't have many customers, or it's not making any money. Why? 1) Because if it's a self written code, nobody would sell you the full rights for such low price. Even myself I would never sell NWE right for something like that and it is not even a running game. 2) If you have even a bit of customers you should be able to do more in 1 year time, so why loose money by selling it to you? So why would you invest in such shames?

Manworm: 2000$ to create from scratch such game? Sure give them your money and be one of the many scammed. Seriously Spudinski was even lower than what I would have counted to create such game. Just to create the art would cost you quiet some, yet code and debug will take you even more time. I don't know how much is somebody payed full time in your country as I don't know where do you live, but let's take an average US salary for a full time position as developer, let's say between 60-80'000 a year, now, I would say let's count 6 month hoping that this single person is able to do the design, the code, the art and everything needed for your game and works full time for you. Therefore it's like between 30'000$ and 40'000$. If you outsource it, count min 2x the salary of a employee, which means between 60K and 80K that would have been my guess. Anything lower to create YOUR game (not just picking a premade code and do a couple of retouch) from scratch is simply a day dream ;) Last word: please share your "reputable development companies" names with us, such that we can also laugh!

Another option would be Unity 3D, you could it make it as standalone, web or phone game and there is a free version of the tool.

Games like Yoville (yet I must admit I never played it), requires tons of game art a good amount of work on the code to make it work and maybe even some sound / music. If you never did any of those, then... I would strongly suggest to start with something simple and more doable for your skills. Even a "guess my number" may require some thinking if you never programmed. So starting with something as complex / complete than Yoville will simply lead nowhere.

Closed. Use the right section.

good idea. I write it down and see how it goes.

Thanks chicka, and you could start learning by downloading and using the free version of the engine ;-)

Here is the planning for the next release: - Updates of nearly all the mods - Some bug fixes - eval function is now wrapped (thanks to octarine feedback), and will allow better debug of conditions / actions - Error handler gives back a readable info - Possibility to disable the security module (currently it's not possible) - New theme manager (allows to import / export themes) - New image uploader (which let you upload images for different modules based on the config.xml file) - Not sure yet which, but a couple of new mods are planned too When is this release planned? Hopefully end of next week. As always, comments, wishes are welcome.

The current stack trace / error handling is let's say less than user friendly. Therefore (and under suggestion of Vienna) I modified it: Replace the function handle_error in libs/common.php /** * Handles errors of the engine or the modules * * @param $errorMessage string * @param $filename string * @param $lineNumber integer * @param $stack array * stack trace */ function handle_error ($errorMessage, $filename, $lineNumber, $stack) { global $content, $template, $isAdmin, $alwaysShowErrorDetails, $modules, $baseDir, $isSuperUser; ob_get_clean(); ob_start(); $template = "error"; $filename = str_replace("\\", "/", $filename); // Admin show the full info if ($alwaysShowErrorDetails == TRUE || ($isAdmin && GetConfigValue("adminViewException", "bug_tracking") != "no")) { echo "Error: $errorMessage<br>"; // Works only for super user, it shows the link to the code editor if // the module exists. if (isset($isSuperUser) && $isSuperUser == true && in_array("admin_code_editor", $modules) && strncmp(substr($filename, strlen($baseDir) + 1), "modules/", 8) == 0) echo "Error in file <a href='" . Secure("index.php?p=admin_code_editor&f=" . urlencode(substr($filename, strlen($baseDir . "/modules/"))) . "&l=$lineNumber", true) . "'>\"$filename\" on line $lineNumber</a><br>"; else echo "Error in file \"$filename\" on line $lineNumber<br>"; array_shift($stack); foreach($stack as $s) { echo "Error in {$s['file']}<br>"; echo "Line {$s['line']}<br>"; } echo "<br>"; } echo Translate("Please help us to improve the game by providing as much information regards any bugs."); echo "</span><br> <br>"; echo "<form method='post' name='reportBug'>"; echo "<input type='hidden' name='action' value='reportBug'>"; TableHeader("Step by step how to reproduce it:"); echo "<textarea name='report'></textarea><br>"; TableFooter(); echo "</form>"; ButtonArea(); SubmitButton("Report", "reportBug"); LinkButton("Back", "index.php"); EndButtonArea(); $_SESSION["bug_line"] = $lineNumber; $_SESSION["bug_file"] = $filename; $_SESSION["bug_report"] = "Error: $errorMessage\nError in file \"$filename\" on line $lineNumber\n" . print_r($stack, true); $content['main'] = ob_get_clean(); // Clean the output to avoid double content error_reporting(0); ShowTemplate(); exit(); }   This fix will be included in the next release.

Many MWG visitors aim at the (all to old) mafia theme. Therefore I'm considering creating a NWE theme system which will let you apply preset of data, texts and more as easily as you install modules. So basically you will go to the theme manager, choose a theme, and apply it. It will remove all the needed table data, set the config keys for you, change the template, apply text translations if needed all in one shot. The end result will be that you will be able to switch from the medieval theme actually offered with engine to other presets in no time. The catch is, if you had your own content (items, config keys, ... ), they will be dropped. So do it only at the beginning ;) As many of you knows, I'm by far not a fan of the Mafia / Gang theme, and if I do it it's purely for the community (yes it will be free to any full owner). Therefore it will be good if some Mafia lover would help me define some content for it. In exchange of this work I'm willing to reimburse the 100$ of the full license (even if you bought it 80$ you will get 100$ back). Which means, you need to be owner of a full license to apply for this job. Why? Because I don't want to give away a license to somebody which may actually do little to nothing. So if you qualify, then PM me, and we shall see how to proceed. For everyone else, it means that we should have NWE as mafia game engine some times soon.

True, but some people may have yet missed it's actually so simple or don't believe it after the McCode nightmare ;) So showing via a video that it is actually that dead simple may make people think.

Some people seems to love watching videos, so here you are, the first videos about NWE: http://www.nw-engine.com/videos You may see how to install a module, Enable / disable a module Edit texts The profiler And configuration keys

Realm: maybe time to look around then? Anyhow it's good to see how things can be done differently ;)

Great! I hope indeed you will discover a few interesting things ;)

Thanks ruler, and I hope/ believe it will still improve.

As I promised a couple of weeks ago, we are now the last week of October and NWE is on sales: http://www.nw-engine.com/ 30% off for the full engine, grab it now as it will not last very long before the normal price comes back. (5th Nov. 2012) Enjoy!

Wrong section...

Wrong section, not even setup a correct title, and bump after not even a day? No thanks, thread closed. Next time follow the rules.

For which engine? McCodes? Then wrong section...