Oo-Savage-oO Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I have come up with this idea that I want to create a small team consisting of 3 coders and 2 designers, in which we will layout our ideas and make some brilliant mods. Some will be free others won't. This will benefit the entire MWG community as we will try our best to fulfill their needs. All profit will be divided evenly among all 5 of us. All we need is a small testing site where we can test our mods, and this can be achieved with a free host so there would be no expense. Now if you want to join just post in this thread, I myself will be a coder so I will need 2 more coders and 2 designers. Here are the requirements: 1. Must be active atleast 30-60 mins. 2. Must have knowledge of designing or coding(depending on what you want) 3. Must have made some mods before so I can know your skills. 4. Must actively participate. I hope you guys like the idea and you will reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicka Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Although this is a good idea I don't think its gonna work. Here is the reason. Paid mods these days don't sell that much and when they do, even the best mods are not all that expensive. Most of the people buying mods are young kids, thus not paying a lot of money. Splitting that 5 ways for that much work isn't gonna last long. If the designers make a nice layout why wouldn't they wanna sell it privately and make 100% of the profits?? they are surly not gonna wanna split it 5 ways. Keep in mind that these forums are dead these days. If your trying to get a team together to make free mods, remember that a_bertrand tried this same thing with the zap engine which was free and no one bothered to do anything with it. If no one wanted to do anything with a FREE community based engine, I highly doubt they are gonna want to make free mods. Thats just my opinion. I hope for the sake of the community that your able to do what your trying to do. it does sound like a good idea Best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runthis Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 (edited) Since everyone is saying it wont work, i guess they havent thought about this scenario I will help out when i can, and will do it for free. Edited November 18, 2011 by runthis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equinox Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 This will never work. Plain and simple. Why? It is a simple logic - you want people to work and split profit 5 ways, when in reality all you need to be paying is 2 at the most. In reality, you only need to be paying yourself, as game owners should have site specific graphics in mind anyway, so you are wasting time creating these. Good luck with your plan though, although it is doomed. It's nice to see the mentality of some of the MWG community hasn't changed. You're making an assumption. Not everyone conforms to your way of thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaaacccckkk Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 It's nice to see the mentality of some of the MWG community hasn't changed. You're making an assumption. Not everyone conforms to your way of thinking. This. ^ Just one of a very few reasons why i no longer post on this forum as i used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uridium Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 all i can see with this idea is arguments arguments and more arguments :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equinox Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I'd like nothing more. He can challenge all he likes, the fact of the matter is, he's wrong. Just because someone thinks it's not going to work, doesn't mean everyone else will think that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equinox Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 But, you are wrong. There is no way you can look at something as make the assumption that it will fail and expect to be right. You can guess, yes, doesn't mean you're going to be right. Different people could see this thread and offer to help, people that only joined today or within the past week, you simply don't know. Lots of people own Google and they are all working together, and correct me if I'm mistaken, but isn't Google doing pretty damn well? So, unless you can give me proof that this will fail (this topic in particular, not saying "look at other attempts") - your comments will be null and void. You can say it will fail in a week, and you could be right, but it's not a certainty - I'm in no way saying it'll work, my feelings towards the subject are mutual, it could go either way. I'm sure as hell not putting the starter down though. So how about stepping down off of that high horse of yours, and set aside the ability to predict the future that your few years experience have given you and stop putting people down. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uridium Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 ayone remember the zapp engine or what ever its name was that was exactly the same as this idea and it went tits up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Equinox Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 ayone remember the zapp engine or what ever its name was that was exactly the same as this idea and it went tits up That maybe true, and again, I'm not supporting the idea. I'm simply saying that you cannot make the assumption that something will fail and claim it as a certainty. He is taking a dump on someone's idea because he doesn't think it will work. And feels like everyone else thinks the same as he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominion Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) We will see in 7 days, when the thread is dead and nobody is viewing it, and no team materializes. I am wrong? Sorry to point out the facts, but I have been on these boards since 2006 and I have seen these threats over and over and over. The end result is always the same - it never works. Teams with money as their motivation, well those who base themselves around mcc, normally fail mainly due to the price of mods for engines being low, but it's not like a community has never come together to create something for free. It's not like it always fails... Edited November 18, 2011 by Dominion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oo-Savage-oO Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 You people are assuming that this group will only make mccodes mods and sell them, but you are wrong. We will start off working on mccodes but if the project is successful and ourncoders and designers are doing a great job we may start working on different engines, or even create our own game engine. Anither thing you people are saying is that with 5 peop,e it will be too much. But. Also look at the fact that the more people the quicker the job will be done. For e.g if a person wants to make a template he first needs to create the images then he need to code it, a job which would take a week or two. But if you are in this team the designers will make the images and the three coders will put it together a job taking only two-three days . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudinski Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Everyone is actually right with their opinnions. It is hard to assemble a long last team of anything in general, but when they have roughly the same expertise(or willingness to learn) and the same objective in sight, it can be sustainable. There's a lot to do with management in these types of arrangements, and typically it's what fails. Developers are engineers, and most engineers fail when it comes to people. It's just a fact. SRB is right with his last post, but it's baised. It's only one aspect of it, the ability of all parties to create something. If you want to have a sustainable thing going here, I will suggest that you list requirements etc., almost such as a job listing - as it mostly is what this is. And btw, the zzap engine(or w/e it's called) wasn't planned out very well(even though coding is), or sqeduled. Take Apple for instance, their technology is ok, but the main thing behind it is the now holy "Apple Image". I'd actually like if something like this started, because it's these types of things that makes a community grow bigger and better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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