Spudinski Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 (edited) Hi, I've read my fair share of installation issues on this forum regarding to MCCodes. I do believe that it's not properly thought out from the get-go, and doesn't actually give descriptive information as to certain errors, and what is happening. I am willing to make an installer that is user-friendly, and maybe has a few features like: - Reading mysql/ftp/etc. info from an email(control panels, inc.& esp. cPanel). - Provides a human readable description of what errors mean, with solutions. - Web install(for lite, other versions I'll speak to CB if needed) - FTP capabilities - A proper and optimized DB from the get-go(seriously, does MCC have any idea of what this even means?) - Hardening if installation file security - Customization(template maybe?) - Other bits&bobs (activation & licensing to MCC) I just don't know if there's a need for an alternative MCCodes installer, if you guys can give your input it would be much appreciated. I'll be willing to go into further depth on each point made. Edited August 27, 2011 by Spudinski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rulerofzu Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Really? From where Im sitting its pretty easy to install the only reason why people have issues as they do not have even a basic understanding on how to setup a database, enter the details into a config file and upload files. If you cannot do any of that then what hope do you really have running a game it ends up as a constant stream of help me do this, help me do this, help me do this. Now a proper optimized DB and connecting class would be a benefit for sure but then again your looking at a rewrite of the engine so again...why bother. If your going to go to such lengths as you have described above then create your own engine and forget about McCodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudinski Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 Thanks for your input. A whole engine is quite a bit more than just an installer and a db, and it takes a lot more time. I've been busy perfecting mine for the last year and a half, and it's still just a core. I have no plans on building an engine to share, anyways. I just want to rewrite small parts of MCCodes, that is for me at least, not very well thought out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uridium Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 I dont think its the Installer thats at fault i think a better Readme file would help people with common errors and how to eliminate them exmple when setting up via xampp and the user doesnt have a password for the dbase setup the installer wont install Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rulerofzu Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Yes obviously an engine is a bit more to it than that. What your suggestion in your first post for optimizing the db would only really be effective if you also did the connecting class and then you would have to amend the pages throughout the engine. This is something that really should have been done in 2.5 and the fact they didnt showed lack of vision and commitment by McCodes staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudinski Posted August 27, 2011 Author Share Posted August 27, 2011 I get that. But I'm talking about generally just optimizing the general design of the database. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uridium Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 From what ive learned about most peoples sites ive worked on the Users dbase can get rather large Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rulerofzu Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Think logically and strip the users table down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudinski Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 The thing is that most addons just add more columns to the user table, which make it larger and more difficult to maintain. I would agree that one need to split it, but I think mods need to have their own table, or joined ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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