Licence issue

[Zero-Affect]

Jordan you just basically admitted to it so then you have yourself been notified of the legal issues of doing what you have done/doing. If you proceed on this then you are knowingly committing a illegal act.

Although im sure there is some standards of product law somewhere which MCC violated by releasing the code for sale so i'd pursue that personally.

[Jordan Palmer]

Darren, As I have said in a few topics, I'll take the MCC 'take down' serious when I see one off the biggest sellers removed (Ravan) and even when that does happen I'll either look for a actual server which is in a offshore location instead off going with any tom dick or harry. Right now i'm not worried at all, Everyone who's seen the 'code' will say it's nothing like MCCodes base, Tables are the same but if that turns out too be an issue, I'll simply enough re do the tables with correct Mysql Index's.

 

Then just register the game as a custom engine and be done.

[Spudinski]

I would worry if I were you Jordan, you already admitted to hosting an illegal copy of MCCodes.

Anyone, literally any, can report you as is, it a simple reference away from your game being taken down.

[CJ - Twitch]

Jordan is correct. This is all Dabs and CBs fault. They should not of let it get out of hand. Why didn't they close down raven sooner? Because there lazy. Well they are in my opinion. But now there is nothing, what so ever, they can do.

[Jordan Palmer]

I would worry if I were you Jordan, you already admitted to hosting an illegal copy of MCCodes.

Anyone, literally any, can report you as is, it a simple reference away from your game being taken down.

but then they'd need to prove it's MCCodes, aswell as proving it's illegal..Also I don't worry because I have a backup emailed too me every two hours, The game isn't open so no user data will be lost.

 

If push come's to shove I'll go to a host which allows nulled material, but until Ravan is off-line This isn't even making me think =)

[Spudinski]

As ColdBlooded said, they only need to prove more that more than 20% of your game is MCCodes.

This includes allot of factors, and not only the database an file contents - but giving away what would be unsuitable.

Also, remember that your host can easily take an old backup of your site if required.

[Jordan Palmer]

As ColdBlooded said, they only need to prove more that more than 20% of your game is MCCodes.

This includes allot of factors, and not only the database an file contents - but giving away what would be unsuitable.

Also, remember that your host can easily take an old backup of your site if required.

The site was recoded on a ej.am subdomain, Then moved to my current hosting provider :D

And they'd actually have a job on proving it was 20% MCCodes, Well once I've finished with it anyway lol

[Zero-Affect]

besides when you openly stated it...

[Jordan Palmer]

besides when you openly stated it...

So? I don't care tbh :) even if I do get shut down, I'll have the site online within the hour so.. :)

[CrazyT]

I didn't say they can't. I only changed them to help me remember them whilst writing a script. But I just think Lite is a great script. and V2 really limits you to what you can do with it. Most V2 games are Gangster/Mafia. V1 Can be anything. Well so can V2 but will require alot of work.

No other script limits what you can do really, its just more work for you editing the files, but tbh its a waste of time when you can write your own in a little of amount of time, not fully working but you have a base script to work from and build up onto.

[Spudinski]

Well, as I already told you: the hosting provider can pull up a backup of up to six months(depends on host).

They can then look what you changed, and remove it accordingly.

Stop bragging about laws and principles you know nothing about.

Read up on the laws of each individual country, and sadly for you cyber-crime in the U.K. is illegal.

[Dominion]

 

1. 
   Introduction
    
   Copyright law originated in the United Kingdom from a concept of common law; the Statute of Anne 1709. It became statutory with the passing of the Copyright Act 1911. The current act is the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988.
   
2. Rights covered
   The law gives the creators of literary, dramatic, musical, artistic works, sound recordings, broadcasts, films and typographical arrangement of published editions, rights to control the ways in which their material may be used.
    
   The rights cover; broadcast and public performance, copying, adapting, issuing, renting and lending copies to the public.
    
   In many cases, the creator will also have the right to be identified as the author and to object to distortions of his work.
    
   International conventions give protection in most countries, subject to national laws.

 

as said above copyright in the uk is the right for the creators to lend (as mccodes do) or sell copys of there (in this case source codes) stuff. now under uk law and i do assume that the host then says no this is not mccodes you must be seens in any court within the uk so that means dabs/blue (would need to be dabs really as copyright on login is his) would need to come over here and be seen in a small claims court and all you will really get is the $100 that he did not pay (if his site goes up today) or the site taken down untill he buys a copy from mccodes.com

 

also it comes up how do you show that mccodes was in fact used? you put my index page next to the mccodes one nothing is the same(won't ever come up for me since i paid) but you see my point law is not easy to follow at the best of times with so many sites to take down as so many countrys laws to read up on i do not think mccodes will be willing to do everyone if they are i will be very impressed.

 

p.s no i am not well-versed in copyright laws but this is what would happen if you both lived in the uk and i don't see a host taking sites down if theres no way of knowing its mccodes as for "cyber crime" ok so its illegal but its to hard to control as everyone knows even big names such as microsoft and apple can not always stop things getting around were way past that with mccodes i think get v3 out and make sure its controlled by mccodes

[Jordan Palmer]

Well, as I already told you: the hosting provider can pull up a backup of up to six months(depends on host).

They can then look what you changed, and remove it accordingly.

Stop bragging about laws and principles you know nothing about.

Read up on the laws of each individual country, and sadly for you cyber-crime in the U.K. is illegal.

I'm not bragging about anything, I'm simply stating facts :)

[Renkia]

Wow Dominion. You changed from recent of your post. And what you said then is correct. I Think some-ones in trouble "Jordan/Pudda". ^^

[Dominion]

yes if they went though all the legal steps then he would need to pay up or take his site down (not that he has one yet) however mccodes needs to show hes using there code *looks up* then show hes not paid for it. i think its a lot of money just to take one site down and with 1000's out there could take some time try and stop them getting around more put into google download mccodes v2 then the sites that come up tell them to take your codes down will only help a little put its a start

[Spudinski]

Well here are the steps, just to be clear.

MCCodes sends a DMCA takedown notice to the host in question, with details such as: sites, and all information as to how MCCodes can confirm the copyright.

The hosting provider then, depending on the infringements, has to take down the sites in question immediately or they can contact the owner of the site in question with the complaint.

If the owner is contacted, the owner can file a counter complaint, which - if given enough reason to prove the copyright - either gets accepted by the host and hosting returns to normal UNLESS MCCode files a suit against the person in question within 10 days.

This is the US law act for DCMA takedown complaints, but the UK should be very similar.

[Zero-Affect]

Jordan maybe i could suggest doing what i did, since i worked with MC for so many years i adopted their ideologies and built up from 3 files i now have about 45 files coded (granted that isn't so good but i've been working for others over the 5ish months i've been working on CG). Considering i can call it my own i am now going over the concepts i adopted (This doesn't mean i copied their script) and recoding them (Alan, Alain & DJK will know since i share knowledge with them) .

I hope you do not continue with the illegal activities because frankly there is no point ruining your image with it.

[Jordan Palmer]

Every file has been recoded, As I said earlier, This game will not be MCCodes once finished, although I carn't say it is now, Yeah it has the same db names, and same file names but 70% of it has been re-done and fully recoded, Once I've finished the next 30% nothing I am doing is illegal. Infact I'm not doing anything illegal right now as I'm not gaining from it. All I'm doing is recoding

 

However thank you for your concern :)

[Zero-Affect]

It doesn't really matter if your not gaining i mean if i stole the recipe for coca cola (i have no idea if it's publicly available) then i said to coca cola "i have it but im not gaining from it im just looking at it and changing a few things which i may sell in the future and/or open my own faction" They would be a little bothered i guess?

We all know MCC's code is pathetic and they at the time of v2 were rather rubbish, So why start something from their work which is obviously of crude design. Making your own base is rather simple and considering you say "recode" rather than code i am assuming your basically recoding all the addons also which is rather silly considering it will be the name just different code.

[Jordan Palmer]

Were not talking about a big company are we? We talking about two guys who own a 'company' which is now gunna try and take down all these site's. As I said, I'm not here to argue, thank you for your concern but I'm 100% ok, I'll take them serious when Ravan is removed, Untill then I'll keep sleeping the way I am :)

[Spudinski]

Off topic I know, but hey...

Coca-Cola was actually a medicine. And if I remember correctly, only about 4 people knows what it is - in the whole wide world.

To conclude to that, it is possible to reveal the ingredients trough some complex research - but as soon as you have it, you'll be sued, because it's patented or something similar.

CrimGame.com, I disagree with you.

MCCodes isn't as bad as the reputation people like you give it.

If you can do better, please do so I can flame it like you do with MCCode. But until then, you can't say jack.

[Zero-Affect]

@Spudinski I am doing my own project you should recall that since you did that investigation about crimgame being on Killah City Server and me being zero affect... lol (notice on my profile where it says formally Zero-Affect). So really i can comment since i've worked with MC for a few years and i know the quality of the code, something i don't get is that you seem to be sucking up a lot to the new owners of MWG by not stating the obvious. I'm sure even CB/Dabs would admit the code was not upto scratch.

@jordan Mug lol

[Zeggy]

Off topic I know, but hey...

Coca-Cola was actually a medicine. And if I remember correctly, only about 4 people knows what it is - in the whole wide world.

To conclude to that, it is possible to reveal the ingredients trough some complex research - but as soon as you have it, you'll be sued, because it's patented or something similar.

The ingredients are available on the side of every can/bottle of coke :D

It's the process of creating coke (the recipe) that is top secret.

[Danny696]

To be fair, Crim can do better than mcc ;)

[Dominion]

the more i look at posts the more i think mccodes paid for mwg just to have lots of "don't buy mcc" on there official forums as well as every non-official one

 

raven is being taken down and they have talked to the host etc but then again seems they have been for a long time i would say talk is not helping them...