Jordan Palmer Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 MCC is not user friendly it's a clone of TC which is semi useful to newbs who can't code, notice the MCC community as you call it isn't actually that big anymore due to the factors like same old shit another day. MCC haven't even tried to bring out something new (and please don't cry about patches) THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING NEW AT ALL. MCCodes is a n00b friendly way of getting your own game.. I think we all know this so the sooner that everyone accepts it and stops crying about it the sooner we can live happier. The MCCodes community is rather large actually, Granted not all on MWG however the overall community is quite large. I agree we haven't attempted to bring alot out in the previous months however we are working on alot, One of them being our own game (MonoDistrict) And so forth. Look at them owning MWG that means what... they got all their customers money and several years on they still have enough to buy MWG, yet they do nothing but sit there and say MCv3 will be available in awhile and get OTHER people to patch LITE... Shit i bet Jordan is doing most of the patching on v1 and v2 would make sense considering their failed attempts at patching ... FAILED. What more can we do? MWG is hostile community. Leave it to run itself has proved to be a better option for now. We never got anyone to patch MCCodes Lite, I believe danny sent it DB on his own accord, Along with Lite being released free I don't see a problem even if we have. I'm actually not working on the patches, As I've left it to the others to sort out. I personally like CB but really it comes to business MCC ain't doing so well. You couldn't be more wrong, Alot of people can sit and make such accusations however no prove can only mean one thing. False statement. MC - Customizable to a limit but very restricted, requires alot of work to fix bugs secure and add graphics Yet because of it needing so much work we have some great developers around today, MCCodes has taught ALOT of people how to develop/code/whatever so please don't say this like this is a majorly bad thing. Without MCCodes needing so much work we wouldn't have as many talented devs around. Actually i don't stay on MWG to make any money nor do i stay on here for MCC, MWG is a community of gamers/owners of games so basically i stay on here to network as a game creator/owner. I totally agree. Alot will see MWG as mccodes only forum, Yet we have MANY sections which can be used more to users advantages. Quote
Paul Evans Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Like i said above it would be easier to delete my posts on this thread than to turn it into a argument but ok... Without MCCodes needing so much work we wouldn't have as many talented devs around.You really believe that? MC didn't help me overcome the newb style of coding and completely idiotic methods of security on the net. MC was just available at the time i didn't learn anything from it... I did php nuke well before MCC and THEY have some amazing work. Who really here can say MC helped them become a good developer (and i don't mean your ambition to recode the lame script i mean it literally helped you). Personally if MC wasn't there GRPG would... or any of the other engines with security issues... Floydian worked on MCv1 script with Noelle does that mean MC inspired him to read all them books and become an amazing programmer? (no it's the will of the user) OK though you claim MC inspires people to be better and want to take credit for that... how about people like decio? proud of him? Do you want to take responsibility for what he's done? It says MC is a ready built game with almost no PHP knowledge needed... FALSE ADVERTISING ain't it? specially when you just said it makes great developers by the bugs and exploits in it. So in total what your saying is you support people who become good developers and say MC had a hand in it (even if they only used it once) so then technically you also support people who got MCC and exploited your customers who paid upto 300 dollars for the script. So basically you tell them ... learn or fail even after the MCC promises of no coding knowledge needed. Now lets review some funny stuff from MCCodes.com MCCodes is a business that is based on quality and uniqueness.Quality (what quality?) and uniqueness (it's a clone) Our first and only goal is to give great service and quality products to our clients. which is why it's taking 6 years for patches and so forth... skill We thrive on creating a great online experience for people and companies alike, and work hard to make sure that each and every client gets what they are looking for. LOL! Seriously what experience do people who buy MC products get... a loss of 300 bucks (more if they bought mods) and basically being tormented by newbs due the the insecure code. Building Browser Role Playing Games (RPGs) has never been easier.Till you actually get the script and find it extremely difficult to patch issues and stop people from exploiting your game. (if you have no coding knowledge) You should use the MCCode engine, which is used by many successful games online. name 20 (which ain't recoded the entire base core) There are also patches released by us which aim to patch bugs and improve the engine in general.Took long enough There are active developers on our community boards providing constant updates for the MCCode engine product.Didn't say anything about you guys providing updates and support (the failed patches don't count) the MCCodes product also enables developers to lessen their risk. You can save time, money and capital by not creating a game engine from scratch which has high probability of failing. Instead, choose the MCCodes engine trusted by many developers.Actually if you bought MCv2 for 300 + graphics (500-1,000)+security (150-300)... easier to work from scratch PHP is free and it wouldn't be difficult to read the manual. Save a large portion of your teams development time and money. With MCCodes, the core engine structure is done for you to a high standard. We offer a very user friendly code format to allow developers to easily edit and add modifications to the game. Really gotta laugh at that. I have never personally installed MCC products and intended on it being a game... Quote
Jordan Palmer Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Argument? no discussion yes. All I'll say is we do not condone any behaviour such as decio however we cannot deny the fact that MCCodes has helped alot of people grow, Including myself, and alot of others, If you wish to oversee that then thats fine just shows your IQ level. MCCodes.com site isn't my choice, Honestly I agree there's false advertising and false statements. Quote
Paul Evans Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 So your calling me stupid yet you agree with me... My IQ is most likely more than yours... Quote
Djkanna Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 I know people that are learning PHP by playing with MCCodes at the moment, I'm not sure why maybe they want to make something out of MCCodes but that's their choice, I personally am not going to stop them as their learning, hell I may even help them along the way. Now I'm more on edge to agree with Paul on this, MCCodes hasn't provided us with some 'great web devs' their willingness to learn has provided them with the knowledge they've gained. It seems strange, at one point we were all basking in the glory of MCCodes because we could make decent modifications for it and fix it's bugs, yet now we're against it perhaps it's time for us to step down and let the new ones to the community take our place after all those previously mentioned people did. MWG is MCC focused no matter how many new boards you supply it's still going to be centred on MCC that ain't going to change. These are just general replies to posts in this topic in no order whatsoever. Quote
Dominion Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 I know people that are learning PHP by playing with MCCodes at the moment, I'm not sure why maybe they want to make something out of MCCodes but that's their choice, I personally am not going to stop them as their learning, hell I may even help them along the way. As I said it's mainly due to free support that is around for it. No engine of this kind can compete with it community wise. Now I'm more on edge to agree with Paul on this, MCCodes hasn't provided us with some 'great web devs' their willingness to learn has provided them with the knowledge they've gained. You can't say mccodes has not drawn at least some good programmers here, and by doing so allowed free support in some ways. I do feel mcc owes allot to md... Not like he did not help keep it going. MWG is MCC focused no matter how many new boards you supply it's still going to be centred on MCC that ain't going to change. You don't have to be. Giving members a push to at least learn away from the engine in the right thing to do in my opinion. paul is in a way correct, if people started to notice more happening with the other engines they would look, and most likely shift to them, however it's hard to gain interest in them with so many free mods for mcc. Quote
Rasheed saeed Posted January 10, 2011 Author Posted January 10, 2011 Ok apart from this going abit of topic, here my point of view with MCC & MWG. Mccodes. Mccodes is a poor engine. It was badly coded, no security & many bugs. But many people use/used it because it was a full on game right there(If you would like to say that). That got MCC reputation up by a long shot. For the people who are not very lazy & don't expect other people to do stuff for them, people started to learn PHP/HTML/etc.. And update modifications & increase security to the game(Like so with me). Mccodes aim never came to them, but something unexpected did. MCC has done most of us a favour, especially me. I only started to learn Development because of MCC so in a way I kind of "thank them" for it. MakeWebGames MWG is not mccodes.com! There is a huge difference. Mccodes.com is full on MCC. MWG is not all MCC, not half MCC, just another board on MWG. But since there are many many people using MCC and most of us has knowledge, you know were I'm going. I made this topic about a re-code on Mcc lite, Danny has sent a re-coded version to Dabs/CB not to sure, so we should of left it as that. Quote
Jordan Palmer Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 DJkanna hit the nail on the head, More and more people are getting negative, maybe its time some of you either grew up or/and simply stepped away from commenting on Mccodes Quote
Paul Evans Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 so to older members who show negative opinions 'get off mccodes posts'? Never considered that us older members with our negative opinions of MCC may have a bloody point, thought MC valued feedback of any kind. Quote
Jordan Palmer Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Not at all paul. But those who go round repeating the same shit on a different thread need to grow up Quote
Paul Evans Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 so a easy solution is to delete the previous 10-15 posts Quote
Jordan Palmer Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 It'll be locked, As we've slightly gone ofcoruse but heh, No harm really Quote
Dominion Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 MakeWebGames MWG is not mccodes.com! There is a huge difference. Mccodes.com is full on MCC. MWG is not all MCC, not half MCC, just another board on MWG. But since there are many many people using MCC and most of us has knowledge, you know were I'm going. mwg is well over ½ mcc based posts... @Paul I never said stop posting in the mcc based areas, just you don't have to if you dislike them as much as it seems you do. @Jordan you said yourself it's a discussion not really immature if there all valid points... Quote
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