AlabamaHit Posted April 26, 2009 Posted April 26, 2009 Re: Hacked :( Ok If you come to Learn..LEARN....Don't make games...That's simply NOT learning. Yes best way to learn is to jump in and try stuff.. That's what LAMP and XAMP is for. You have NO right to offer a game, that depends on donations from people to the public if you are "Learning" like you said. You are not a game owner, your a person learning. Simple as that. If that is going to be your excuse go learn. Ask questions. Oh, and posting that guys IP will get YOU in trouble, as that breaks a law. So you know, that. Not "bitching" at you, I'm just like everyone else sick of hearing about the 500 games every month that open and close. You are KILLING the business of games. Your getting into everyone elses cuase your drawing people to crappy games, they see them think that all text based browser games will be like that., and we lose out. I honestly don't expect most to understand cuase most on here are under 15 years old. And you dn't want my opinion on that... Quote
Strats Posted April 26, 2009 Author Posted April 26, 2009 Re: Hacked :( I understand what your saying, but for me I am one of these people that like to jump straight in. I like asking questions, If I have a problem and some one helps me I like to look at what I did wrong and learn from it. If I buy my mods and install them and have problems It makes sense to ask for help, It's quicker than spending hours keep looking over the codes. I learn so much quicker if I get pointers, a push in the right direction. I know that I can be a right dumb ass at times lol But hell I try, I spend so much time reading codes and learning Php I freaking dream about codes lol. I can only speak for myself when I say this stuff, and I can see by my 6- that not every one likes me asking questions and having an opinion but that's just me. Quote
(((TOLK))) Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Re: Hacked :( Ok If you come to Learn..LEARN....Don't make games...That's simply NOT learning. Yes best way to learn is to jump in and try stuff.. That's what LAMP and XAMP is for. You have NO right to offer a game, that depends on donations from people to the public if you are "Learning" like you said. You are not a game owner, your a person learning. Simple as that. If that is going to be your excuse go learn. Ask questions. Oh, and posting that guys IP will get YOU in trouble, as that breaks a law. So you know, that. Not "bitching" at you, I'm just like everyone else sick of hearing about the 500 games every month that open and close. You are KILLING the business of games. Your getting into everyone elses cuase your drawing people to crappy games, they see them think that all text based browser games will be like that., and we lose out. I honestly don't expect most to understand cuase most on here are under 15 years old. And you dn't want my opinion on that... I completely have a different view to you, like strats, i'm still learning. Maybe games aren't the best way to learn but over the past few months that i started coding i can do alot of things. Quote
Strats Posted April 27, 2009 Author Posted April 27, 2009 Re: Hacked :( Hopefully If I stick to this I will learn like you too :-) Quote
Dazza Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Re: Hacked :( Alabama, I nearly always agree with you but my opinion of this is some-what different to yours. You say the 'exploiter' is only half in the wrong for doing it, as the game owners resonsibility is to secure the game, but let take this for example; Iv just opened my window so my cat can come and go as she pleases and I decide to go upstairs/out/toilet. Someone comes and climbs in and knicks my Tv - I ring police and they catch the 'crook'. So its not the criminals fault he came onto my property (trespass) and steals my Tv, because I 'allowed' him to do it by opening my window? While my window may be open, Im allowed to as its my property. I dont expect people to break in but occasionally it does happen, but when/if it does I cant be held resonsible because at the end of the day, Im allowed to open my own windows......leave my car unlocked......have plants outside......If you use your logic, Id be living in a concrete box with no openings, because to have something means Im being 'silly' and frankly allowing people to take it. Thats a real world example, even though the tinternet is different, not always. The 'exploiter' has acted maliciously to destroy/ruin/change/annoy a game and its owner with every intention to do so as its unlikly they innocently clicked a link and all hell was let loose. Morale of this long drawn out story, secure your game and lock your houses! Quote
(((TOLK))) Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Re: Hacked :( Alabama, I nearly always agree with you but my opinion of this is some-what different to yours. You say the 'exploiter' is only half in the wrong for doing it, as the game owners resonsibility is to secure the game, but let take this for example; Iv just opened my window so my cat can come and go as she pleases and I decide to go upstairs/out/toilet. Someone comes and climbs in and knicks my Tv - I ring police and they catch the 'crook'. So its not the criminals fault he came onto my property (trespass) and steals my Tv, because I 'allowed' him to do it by opening my window? While my window may be open, Im allowed to as its my property. I dont expect people to break in but occasionally it does happen, but when/if it does I cant be held resonsible because at the end of the day, Im allowed to open my own windows......leave my car unlocked......have plants outside......If you use your logic, Id be living in a concrete box with no openings, because to have something means Im being 'silly' and frankly allowing people to take it. Thats a real world example, even though the tinternet is different, not always. The 'exploiter' has acted maliciously to destroy/ruin/change/annoy a game and its owner with every intention to do so as its unlikly they innocently clicked a link and all hell was let loose. Morale of this long drawn out story, secure your game and lock your houses! You tell 'em Dazza lol :lol: He's right though, i'll give you a +1 for that ;) Quote
Strats Posted April 27, 2009 Author Posted April 27, 2009 Re: Hacked :( Nice Daz, Thats kinda how I feel. I think if someone hacks your game it's like criminal damage isn't it? Going on to something and destroying it. Quote
danger boy Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Re: Hacked :( Jameo changed his name his new name on CE is Reasonz. He even robbed a hosting owner when he was made staff for a host he changed the paypal email adress to his lucky he got caught but did get a few bucks. That says alot about him. Quote
Strats Posted April 27, 2009 Author Posted April 27, 2009 Re: Hacked :( Yea I have seen him in lots of games always in fed for trying to cheat Quote
(((TOLK))) Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Re: Hacked :( Jameo changed his name his new name on CE is Reasonz. He even robbed a hosting owner when he was made staff for a host he changed the paypal email adress to his lucky he got caught but did get a few bucks. That says alot about him. I guess he likes earning money the hard way, steeling it lol :lol: Quote
Strats Posted April 27, 2009 Author Posted April 27, 2009 Re: Hacked :( That's the lazy way to make money lol Quote
oxidati0n Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 Re: Hacked :( The bottom line that you should learn from this, don't rely on Dabomstew's code. He's developed that, what, 5-6 years ago (when I first visited CE), and it's completely out of date. Little coded modifications does not secure of other parts of the engine, and from what I've recently rechecked, it doesn't have any elements from PHP 4.x+ included (and we're going on PHP 6 soon!) so it's going to have bugs as it hasn't been updated. As PHP gets more weaker, they release new versions. Otherwise they'd just had made one stable version and rely on all these 'libraries' to do the job. MCcodes V2 is just a clone from it's predecessor, except with more customization and fancy code lines to make you think you've got more value for your money. If you'd rather buy MCcodes than vBulletin, then your mentality is somehow corrupt (as vBulletin has everything MCcodes doesn't - value). People respect vBulletin for it's regular updates for the script, which just makes people "want" to pay them because they want to support them. It's just plain stupid how people are still playing with this code. I'm sure in this time you'd had learnt that coding your own engine is definately the right solution every time. If you don't get it perfect first time, don't sweat it - just take bits out of other codes and see how you go. That's how I learnt. Quote
AlabamaHit Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Re: Hacked :( lol, Dazza you have a point there. I see where you are coming from on that. :-) Quote
Strats Posted April 29, 2009 Author Posted April 29, 2009 Re: Hacked :( I know that, I brought my codes about 2 years ago now. I had no idea what to do no idea about how buggy they were. I only saw what they could on games. I understand more now and can see I have to learn alot more, to protect my game myself. Quote
wolfe Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Re: Hacked :( 2 Years ago? :-P. didnt feel like putting it up before now? Quote
Strats Posted April 29, 2009 Author Posted April 29, 2009 Re: Hacked :( Yea I brought them when I had a busy job lol Now I aint got work :( But lots of time to learn and have fun lol Quote
gideon prewett Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Re: Hacked :( i personly think allot of people on ce have the wrong idea most new members who are learning wont ask questions because of the abuse they get back to all u exsperienced coders out there who are constantly putting people and there mods down ur on a forum for learning and helping so HELP if ur not helping wats the point of being here to the thing i saw in this post that made me post this about people learning having games i dont do well learning from books so i started learning on a test game and a few friends joined up to see what i was doing even though i didnt have crons as it was on a free host now i own a game im sure its quite crap compared to allot of urs but im still new and LEARNING and my members know that and are happy the main thing thats giving these games a bad name is the amount of gangster/ pimp games that open up every day not just new coders learning Quote
Strats Posted April 29, 2009 Author Posted April 29, 2009 Re: Hacked :( Exactly! My game is a bit plain right now, Lots to work on but I have a handful of people playing. They all understand that I am learning and working pretty much all of the time on making it better and improving. Without the support from people In here (The nice ones) I would never be able to do this, I would not be able to learn from my mistakes. I think if you don't want to help people, don't reply to these posts. Quote
Strats Posted April 29, 2009 Author Posted April 29, 2009 Re: Hacked :( That muppet came back on my game to try again I waited for a min to see if he could make himself Admin but he didn't Not sure if he could. But I blocked him new Ip :lol: Quote
grimreaper6996 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Re: Hacked :( The problem is new people come in here all the time and ask the same question over and over and over and over again...Maybe its the same people asking the same question or maybe its not...All u have to do is USE THE DAM SEARCH box....Chances are that somebody else has asked your question already...If nobody has asked your question then make a post for a reply Quote
gideon prewett Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Re: Hacked :( well there still people and even if they are 14 or somthing its even worse because allot of u are older and some comments ive seen may make then give up coding all together treat people how u wish to be treated (tell them to use the search box) Quote
AlabamaHit Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Re: Hacked :( I do treat as I want to be treated. If I can't be bothered to use the search box, I would expect people to talk bad to me, when the question I asked has been asked 50 times, and answered 50 times. Yeah, you have no idea cuase you new, and new is NOT an excuse this site is just like all others. It has a nice old search feature. So, that is why they are bashed for asking and if theyh give up on coding Good...cuase they don't need to be donig it and don't really want to learn it if they give up that easy. Now, People saying you can not learn from internet tutorials, and reading books.. Well this is going to get me some bad marks.. if you can not learn like that. Well, in all honesty you probarly to Stupid to be coding/programming. You have to admin, this is not flipping burgers, nor changing oil. So if your not smart enough to learn that way, well, your probarly not smart enough to do it at all. Quote
ChrisJonesCJ Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Re: Hacked :( I do treat as I want to be treated. If I can't be bothered to use the search box, I would expect people to talk bad to me, when the question I asked has been asked 50 times, and answered 50 times. Yeah, you have no idea cuase you new, and new is NOT an excuse this site is just like all others. It has a nice old search feature. So, that is why they are bashed for asking and if theyh give up on coding Good...cuase they don't need to be donig it and don't really want to learn it if they give up that easy. Now, People saying you can not learn from internet tutorials, and reading books.. Well this is going to get me some bad marks.. if you can not learn like that. Well, in all honesty you probarly to Stupid to be coding/programming. You have to admin, this is not flipping burgers, nor changing oil. So if your not smart enough to learn that way, well, your probarly not smart enough to do it at all. I feel like Alabamahit is a very under rated developer and he is very good so I hope you take his advice and listen to his wise words. Quote
Strats Posted May 1, 2009 Author Posted May 1, 2009 Re: Hacked :( Jameo For The Win! xD Are you a retard? LMAO!! Maybe he should post his game I'll have someone hack his, wonder if he will still be laughing then lol Hahahaha Try It Lmao, I'd Be Laughing Because 1) You Got Hacked Of Jameo 2) You're Obviously The Retard For Not Protecting 3) You Cried On A Public Forum After You're Own Idiocy. 4) You're Game If I Remeber Sucks And Is Called Wrestling Wars ... www.wrestling-wars.com 5) You're Game Still Has The Installer File Active (Retard) 6) I Couldn't Think Of A 6th Reason But The Above 5 Make My Point Clear (Btw If The Game Name I Found Was Wrong, Then Someone Else Wanted To Be You In That Case It Gives Me A 6th Reason) U.n.l.u.c.k.y If You Ask Me. Oh And Nice Game, Or Whats Gona Be Left Of It :) Lol Thank you for joining and helping me out :-P I had forgotten about the installer file. And My game does not suck lol It's only been open 2 weeks and already have a bunch of things that no other game has yet :lol: And for that I am happy Quote
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